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Transportation and Traffic
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CONTAINING A COMPLETE REPORT
OF THE FOURTEENTH ANNUAL
CONVENTION, HELD AT HADDON
HALL HOTEL, ATLANTIC CITY, N. J,
OCTOBER 3, 4, 5 and 6, 1921



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THE AMERICAN STREET AND INTERURBAN RAILWAY
TRANSPORTATION AND TRAFFIC ASSOCIATION

WAS ORGANIZED AT NEW YORK, N. Y., JANUARY 30, I908
THE NAME OF THIS ASSOCIATION IS NOW

AMERICAN ELECTRIC RAILWAY TRANSPORTATION AND
TRAFFIC ASSOCIATION

(change made at I9IO ATLANTIC CITY CONVENTION)



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TABLE OF CONTENTS

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"^ U^ Officers and Executive Committee of 1921 Convention iv

^^ Officers and Executive Committee elected at 1921 Convention v

Personnel of Committees, 1921 Convention vi

Convention Program viii

Minutes of Monday's Session (October 3, 192 1) i

Address of the President i

Report of Executive Committee 5

Report of the Secretary 19

Appointment of Convention Committees 20

Report of Committee on Merchandising of Transportation. ... 21

Written Discussion by W. L. Goodwin 54

Written Discussion by Harry Reid 64

Written Discussion by E. M. Walker 67

Discussion — Report of Committee on Merchandising of

Transportation , 69

Minutes of Tuesday's Session (October 4, 1921) 85

Joint Meeting with Claims Association: .

Report of Committee on Traffic Regulations 85

Discussion — Report of Committee on Traffic Regulation*- 91
Paper — '•* Traffic Regulations of New York City " by

Inspector John O'Brien 94

Paper — " Traffic Regulations and Safety Work " by

J. M. Quigley 98

Report of Joint Committee on Safety Work 106

Discussion — Report of Joint Committee on Safety Worki22, 136
Paper — "-Utility Accidents to the Public Prevented
Through School Safety Instruction," by Dr. E. George

Payne 131

Minutes of Wednesday's Session (October 5, 1921) 146

Joint Meeting with Accountants' Association:

Report of the Committe on Economics of Schedules 146

Discussion — Report of the Committee on Eqpnomics of

Schedules 157

Report of the Joint Committee on Express and Freight

Traffic Promotion and Costs 171

DiscuFsion — Report of the Joint Committee on Express

and Freight Traffic Promotion and Costs 181

Minutes of Thursday's Session (October 6, 1921) 194

Report of the Committee on Nominations 194

Election of Officers 197

Report of the Committee on Personnel and Training of Trans-
portation Employes 198

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iv Table of Contents

Minutes of Thursday's Session — Continued: page

Written Discussion by Dr. John Leeming 202

Written Discussion by H. H. Norris 207

Written Discussion by R. L. Wilson 217

Report of the Committee on Resolutions 222

Installation of Officers 223

AdjotuTiment 224

Contributors to Discussion 225

Summary Index of Previous Proceedings:

American Street and Interurban Transportation and Traffic

Association (1908-1910) 227

American Electric Railway Transportation and Traffic Associ-
ation (191 1-1920) 229

General Index 233



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OFFICERS, 1920-192 1



(Officers of the 192 1 Convention)

President :
R. P. STEVENS,

President, Pennsylvania-Ohio Electric Co.,
youngstown, ohio.

First Vice-President:

L. H. PALMER,

Assistant to the President, Ui^ited Railways & Electric Co.,

baltimore, md.

Second Vice-President:

G. T. SEELY,

General Manager, Pennsylvania-Ohio Electric Co.,

youngstown, ohio.

Third Vice-President:

J. K. PUNDERFORD,

Vice-President, The Connecticut Co.,

NEW haven, conn.

Secretary
J. W. WELSH,

8 WEST 4OTH STREET, NEW YORK, N. Y.



EXECUTIVE COMMITTER:

THE OFFICERS, PAST PRESIDENTS AND

G. H. Clifford, Vice-President and Local Manager, Northern Texas
Traction Co., Fort Worth, Tex.

A. Gaboury> Superintendent, Montreal Tramways Co., Montreal,

Quebec, Canada
T. C. Cherry, Vice-President, Rochester & Syracuse Railroad,

Syracuse, N. Y.
J V. Sullivan, Assistant to the President, Chicago Surface Lines,

Chicago, 111.

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OFFICERS, 1921-1922



(Officers elected at the 1921 Convention)

President :
L. H. PALMER,

Assistant to President, United Railways & Electric Co.,
baltimore, md.

First Vice-President :

G. T SEELY,

Vice-President and General Manager, Pennsylvania-Ohio

Electric Co.,

youngstown, o.

Second Vice-President:
J K. PUNDERFORD,

Vice-President and General Manager, The Connecticut Co.,
new haven, conn.

Third Vice-President:
ARTHUR GABOURY,

Superintendent, Montreal Tramways Co.,
montreal, que.

Secretary :
J. W. WELSH,

8 WEST FORTIETH STREET, NEW YORK, N. Y.



EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE:

THE OFFICERS, PAST PRESIDENTS AND

Edward Dana, General Manager, Boston Elevated Railway Company.

Boston, Mass.
G. H. Clifford, Vice-President, Northern Texas Traction Company,

Fort Worth, Tex.
T. C. Cherry, Vice-President, Rochester and Syracuse Railroad

Company, Syracuse, N. Y.

J. V. Sullivan, Assistant to President, Chicago Surface Lines,

Chicago, 111.
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TRANSPORTATION AND TRAFFIC ASSOCIATION
COMMITTEES, 1920^1921



MERCHANDISING OF TRANSPORTA-
TION

J. H. Alexander, Chairman, Vice-Presi-
dent, The Cleveland Railway Company,
Cleveland, Ohio.

S. L. Vaughan. Traffic Manager, Grand
Rapids, Grand Haven & Muskegon Rail-
way Co., Grand Rapids, Mich.

H. C. Clark, Public Service Corporation,
Newark, N. J.

P. R. CoATES, President, Toledo Railways
and Light Company, Toledo, Ohio.

M. B. Lambert, Manager, Railway Depart-
ment, Westinghouse Electric & Manu-
facturing Company, East Pittsburgh, Pa.

A. L. Kempster, Greneral Manager, New
Orleans Railway and Light Company,
New Orleans, La.

P. L. Butler, General Superintendent,
Winnipeg Electric Railway Company,
Winnipeg, Canada.

A. H. Perrandou, Executive Assistant,
Washington Railway and Electric Com-
pany, Washington, D. C.

A. Stuart Pratt, Stone and Webster Man-
agement Corporation, Boston, Mass.

B. W. Prauenthal, General Traffic Agent,
United Railways Company of St. Louis,
St. Louis, Mo.

W.' H. BoYCE, General Manager, Beaver
Valley Traction Company, New Brighton,
Pa.

Elton Wilde, Vice-President, Union Street
Railway Company, New Bedford, Mass.

NOBfiNATIONS

W. H. Sawyer, Chairman, President, East
St. Louis and Suburban Railway Com-
pany, East St. Louis, Illinois.

P. R. CoATES, President, Community Trac-
tion Company, Toledo, Ohio.

E. C. Spring, General Superintendent,
Lehigh Valley Transit Company, Allen-
town, Pa.



PERSONNEL AND TRAINING OF
TRANSPORTATION EMPLOYES

James P. Barnes. Chairman, President,

Louisville Railway Company, Louisville,

Ky.
Martin Schreiber, Manas[er, Southern

Division and Chief Engineer, Public

Service Railway Company, Camden,

N. J.
John Leeming, Medical Counsel, Chicago

Surface Lines, Chicago, 111.
F. D. Burpee, Manager, Ottawa Electric

Railway Company, Ottawa, Canada.
J. P. Trazzare, Publicity Agent, Georgia

Railway and Power Company, Atlanta,

Ga.
P. G. Buffe, General Manager, Kansas

City Railways Company, Kansas City,

Mo.



J. E. Wayne, Vice-President, York Rail-
ways Company, York, Pa.

Alan P. Norris, Sui)erintendent, Rochester
and Syracuse Railroad Company, Inc.,
Syracuse, N. Y.

F. H. Butler, Manager, Railway Depart-
ment, Georgia Railway and Power Com-
pany, Atlanta, Ga.



RESOLUTIONS

H. B. BozELL, Editor, Electric Railway
Journal, New York, N. Y. Chairman.

C. L. Van Auken, Editor, Electric Trac-
tion, Manhattan Building, Chicago,
111.

W. H. BoYCE, General Manager, Beaver
Valley Traction Company, New Brighton.
Pa.



TRAFFIC REGULATIONS

H. B. Flowers, Chairman, Vice-President
and General Manager, United Railways
and Electric Company, Baltimore, Md.

W. H. Maltbie, Attorney, United Railways
& Electric Company, Baltimore, Md.

Paul E. Wilson, Assistant Secretary,
Cleveland Railway Co., Cleveland, Ohio.

Fielder Sanders. Street Railroad Com-
missioner of Cleveland, Cleveland, Ohio.

P. R. Cogswell, Traffic Agent, Pittsburgh
Railways Company, Pittsburgh, Pa.

H. B. Potter, Assistant General Manager,
Boston Elevated Railway Company,
Boston, Mass.

R. J. Kelker. Jr., Street Traffic Supervisor
of Board of Supervising Engineers, Chi-
cago, 111.



JOINT COMBaTTEE ON ECONOMICS
OF SCHEDX7LES

Transportation and Traffic Members.

Edward Dana, Chairman, General Mana-

Ssr, Boston Elevated Railway Company,
oston, Mass.

H. C. \fosER, Superintendent of Trans-
portation, Fifth Avenue Coach Company,
New York, N. Y.

J. A. Stoll, Traffic Manager, United Rail-
ways and Electric Company of Baltimore,
Baltimore, Md.

Samuel Riddle, Vice-President, Louisville
Railway Company, Louisville, Ky.

E. H. Ives, 2d Assistant General Super-
intendent, ^ Detroit United Railway,
Detroit, Mich.

Donald Goodrich, Acting General Super-
intendent, Twin City Rapid Transit
Company, Minneapolis, Minn.

Harold A. Otis, Assistant General Super-
intendent, Chicago and Interurban Trac-
tion Company, Chicago, 111.



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Accountant Members.

A. G. Neal, Co-Chairman, Comptroller,
Washinfirton Railway and Electnc Com-
pany, Washington, D. C.

J. M. Campbell, Auditor, Atlantic City
and Shore Railroad, Atlantic City, N. J.

B. P. Jacobs, Assistant Auditor. Cleveland
Railway Company, Cleveland, Ohio.

Walter Shrovbr, Auditor, Union Traction
Company of Indiana, Anderson, Ind.



JOINT COMBaTTBB ON EXPRESS AND
FREIGHT TRAFFIC PROMOTION
AND COSTS

Transportation and Traffic Members.

P. W. Coen, Chairman, Vice-President,
Lake Shore Electric Railway Company,
Sandusky, Ohio.

T. H. Stoffel, Railway Department,
Westinghouse Electric and Manufactur-
ing Company, East Pittsburgh, Pa.

A. F. Van Deinse, Vice-President, Colum-
bus, Delaware & Marion Electric Com-
pany, Marion, Ohio.

W. S. Rodger, General Traffic Manager,
Detroit United Railway, Detroit, Mich.

R. D. Hood, Vice-President, Massachusetts
Northeastern Street Railway Co., Haver-
hill, Mass.

T. G. Brabston, Railway and Freight
Traffic Manager, Birmingham Railway,
Light and Power Company, Birmingham,
Ala.

F. D. NoRVEiLj General Passenger Agent,
Union- Traction Company of Indiana,
Anderson, Ind.

C. E. Thompson, Assistant to President,
Chicago, North Shore and MilwatUcee
Railroad, Highwood, 111.

J. H. Crall, General Passenger & Freight
Agent, Terre Haute, Indianapolis and
Eastern Traction Company, Inmanapolis,
Ind.

W. P. Bristol, Manager, Hartford Divi-
sion, The Connecticut Company, Hart-
ford, Conn.



Accountant Members.

L. T. HixsoN, Co-Chairman, Auditor, Terre
Haute, Indianapolis & Eastern Traction .
Co., Indianapolis, Ind.

A. R. Baxter, Auditor, Indianapolis and
Cincinnati Traction Company, Rushville,
Ind.

C. K. Savery, Exp. Claim Adjuster, The
Connecticut Company, New Haven,
Conn.

L. E. LiPPiTT, Auditor. Auburn and Syra-
cuse Electric Railroad Co., Auburn, N. Y.

W. K. ZiNMEiSTER, Auditor, Rochester and
Syracuse Railroad Comi>any, Syracuse,



JOINT COMMITTEE ON SAFETY
WORK

Transportation and Traffic Members.

E. C. Spring, Chairman, General Super-
intendent, Lehigh Valley Transit Com-
pany, Allentown, Pa.

W. H. BoYCE, General Manager, Beaver
Valley Traction Company, New Brighton,
Pa.

C. B. Scott, Safety Representative, Chi-
cago Edison Company, Chicago, 111.

E. M. Walker, General Manager, Terre
Haute Traction & Light Company, Terre
Haute, Ind.

G. E. Deibert, Safety Director, Georgia
Railway and Power Company, Atlanta,
Ga.

Claims Members.

R. E. McDouGALL, Chairman, General
Manager, New York and Harlem Rail-
road Co., New York, N. Y.

C. G. Rice. Manager, Associated Bureaus,
Pittsburgh Railways Co., Pittsburgh, Pa.

Wm. P. Weh, Superintendent of Accident
Department, Cleveland Railways Co.,
Cleveland, Ohio.

H. V. Drown, General Claim Agent, Public
Service Railway Co., Newark, N. J.



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CONVENTION PROGRAM



(Atlantic City, N. J., October 3, 4, 5 and 6, 1921)
All meetings were held in the Vernon Room of the Haddon Hall Hotel.
Monday, October Zrd, Morning — 9:30 a. m. to 12:30 p. m.

Registration and distribution of badges at registration booth, at Board- .
walk entrance to Pavilion in front of Haddon Hall, comer of Board-
walk and North Carolina avenue.

Afternoon — 2:30 to 5:30 p. m.

Con\enticn called to Order.
Annual Addiess of the President.
Annual Report of tht Executive Committee.
Annual Report of the Secretary-Treasurer.
Appointment of Convention Committees.

(a) Resolutions.

(b) Nominations.

Report of Committee:
Merchandising Transportation — J. H. Alexander, Vice-President,
Cleveland Railway Company, Cleveland, Ohio, Chairman.

Tuesday, October ^th^ Afternoon — 2:30 to 5:30 p. m.
Joint Meeting with Claims Association.
Report of Committee:
Traffic Regulations — H. B. Flowers, Vice-President and General
Manager, United Railways & Electric Company, Baltimore, Md.,
Chairman.

Address — "Traffic Regulations of New York City," Inspector John

O'Brien, Police Department, New York, N. Y.
Address — "Traffic Regulations and Safety Work," J. M. Quigley,

Chief of Police, Rochester, N. Y.
Report of Committee:
Joint Committee on Safety Work — E. C. Spring, General Super-
intendent, Lehigh Valley Transit Company, AHentown, Pa., Chair-
man,
R. E. McDougall, General Manager, New York & Harlem Rail-
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Speakers :

C. B. Hardin, Claim Agent, United Railways Company of St.
Louis, St. Louis, Mo.

C. G. Rice, Manager Associated Bureaus, The Pittsburgh Rail-
ways Company, Pittsburgh, Pa.

Russell A. Sears, Attorney, Boston Elevated Railway Company,
Boston, Mass.

Wednesday, October Sth, Afternoon — 2 130 p. m. to 5 :oo p. m.

Joint Meeting with Accountants' Association.
Reports of Committees:
Joint Committee on Economics of Schedules — Edward Dana,
General Manager, Boston Elevated Railway Company, Boston,
Mass., Chairman.
A. G. Neal, Comptroller, Washington Railway and Electric Com-
pany, Washington, D. C, Co-Chairman.
Joint Committee on Express and Freight Traffic Promotion and
Costs — F. W. Coen, Vice-President, Lake Shore Electric Railway
Company, Sandusky, Ohio, Chairman.
L. T. Hixson, Auditor, Terre Haute, Indianapolis & Eastern
Traction Company, Indianapolis, Indiana, Co-Chairman.

Thursday, October 6th, Afternoon — 2:30 p. m. to 5:00 p. m.

Report of Committee :
Perspnnel and Training of Transportation Employes — James P.
Barnes, President, Louisville Railway Company, Louisville, Ken-
tucky, Chairman.

Suggestions.
General Discussion.
General Business.
Report of Convention Committees:

(a) Resolutions.

(b) Nominations.

Election of Officers.
Installation of Officers.
Adjournment.



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MINUTES

OF THE

1921 CONVENTION



MONDAY SESSION

October 3, 1921.

The Fourteenth Annual Convention of the American Elec-
tric Railway Transportation and Traffic Association was
called to order by President Stevens at 3 p. m., Monday,
October 3, 1921, in the Vernon Room of Haddon Hall Hotel,
Atlantic City, N. J.

President Stevens : — Gentlemen, the meeting will please
come to order. Will the gentlemen who are seated in the back
seats please come forward, as I do not believe we are going
to have so large an attendance, unfortunately, as will fill those
back rows.

ADDRESS OF THE PRESIDENT

In opening this, the fourteenth annual convention of the American
Electric Railway Transportation and Traffic Association, I want to
impress upon you the absolute necessity for full discussion and free
interchange of ideas on all subjects brought before us, if we are to
get the greatest good out of the reports into which our committees
have put so much time and thought.

Trusting that my remarks will not be considered as lecturing, I also
desire to emphasize the serious nature of the problems of this body,
which are so important a part of the work of the American Associa-
tion. Our investigations are very necessary to the broader affairs
of the parent Association, a part of whose problems are assigned to
us for discussion and recommendation, and I am of the opinion that
our work is not only one of the most important phases of the American
Association's activities, but that its scope includes latent possibilities
for efficient labors seldom, if ever, appreciated.

I do not intend to take up your time today by anticipating the reports
of the Committees, but a few references to their significance to every
one of us seem pertinent.

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2 Transportation and Traffic Association

The report of the Committee on Merchandising Transportation fol-
lows up the important work started by the Committee on this subject
last year, and covers a field in which the " sky is the limit" The
possibilities of merchandising transportation never have been fully
realized, and, if this report simply starts us all thinking in the right
direction, it will have accomplished a great purpose.

The Committee on Traffic Regulations likewise has continued the
admirable work of a year ago, and, while its report is not so novel
or so fertile for discussion as some others, it covers an essential sub-
ject, and the work done by this Committee is of inestimable value to
the Association.

By a thorough study .of its subject the Joint Committee on Safety
Work has produced a most complete report, bringing the consideration
of this vital matter up to date. In this work we have the greatest pos-
sibilities of good, both from humanitarian and monetary standpoints,
and the members of the Association will do well to give earnest atten-
tion to every word of the Committee's findings.

The report of the Joint Committee on Economics of Schedules is
the result of much time and thought spent on this subject by a number
of the Association's greatest experts on this technical phase of our
work. It should be productive of lasting good, if its importance is
fully appreciated.

The study by the Committee on Personnel and Training of Trans-
portation Employes brings out highly instructive features. I trust
that full discussion will enable us to appreciate the potentialities that
lie in this direction.

Another report that should be of great benefit to the Association
is that of the Joint Committee on Express and Freight. For many
years we have been trying to get accurate data on the operations of
this department so as to determine whether or not our services are
applicable to this field. Only this year have we been able to work out
a uniform system of accounting which will enable us to make definite
comparisons, something heretofore impossible on a comprehensive scale
because of the different methods of cost accounting. If some companies
survive almost entirely as a result of this class of service, while others
do not have it at all, it seems to me that we should determine where
the dividing line is. Are we not overlooking a splendid opportunity
through the lack of reliable information?

Permit me at this time to make grateful acknowledgment to the
Committee members for their work in compiling these excellent reports
and also to the Secretary of the Association, Mr. Welsh, who so
courageously grasped the reins of his office in an emergency and so
intelligently guided the Association's affairs through a difficult period.

At this time also I would like -respectfully to call the attention of
the incoming President and Executive Committee to the following sug-
gestions which occur to me as helpful for the future of our Asso-
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Address of the President 3

I would recommend that the new Executive Committee appoint a
Committee to consider changes in the Constitution and By-Laws of
the Association that we may avail ourselves of the experience gained
m conducting the affairs of the Association in the past.

I feel that only one Vice-President is necessary and that provision
should be made for a senior member of the Executive Committee to
become ex-ofiicio acting President, in event of both President and
Vice-President being unable to attend to the duties of the office, imtil
the vacancy has been filled in the regular way. This, to my mind,
would make an increase in the membership of the Executive Committee



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