Subject & that he did everything in his power to render Services to the
Isaac Ogden Esq sworn.
Was acquainted with the Claim* in 1775 & many Years before. Says that
he heard in 1775 from some Members of the provincial Congress that they wished
him (Witness) to serve therein which he refused & that they then told him that
M r Skinner would be offer d the post of Maj r Gen 1 & used that as an Argum*
to induce him to serve as a Member of Congress. Witness believes that Gen 1
Skynner s practice was worth 500 S. per Ann. Would have given the Claim*
300 S. per ann. for the Att y Generalship. This Office led the Claim* into
David Ogden Esq sworn.
Has known Gen 1 Skynner from his Infancy. Was Att y Gen 1 & Speaker of
the Assembly when the troubles broke out. Says that Claim* was most sincerely
attached to the British Gov*.
Sir Henry Clinton K.B. sworn. I2th Ma 7 J 7 8 4-
Says that Gen 1 Skynner conducted himself with great Zeal during the War.
He has frequently receiv d material Information from him & found great Use
from his Extensive knowledge of the Country & the Characters of the Americans.
He says that upon the whole Gen 1 Skynner was particularly zealous & active
in the Cause of Great Britain.
Memorial of Jermyn Wright * Esq. Determined the
Jermyn Wright Esq-the Claim -sworn. ^ April 1784. ** <* ** 784-
He was born in Eng d & went to America in 1758. He was a Planter & traded An Active Zealous
as a Merch*. He swears that the Contents of his Memorial are true to the best * meritorious
of bis knowledge. He bore Arms first, in feb? 1776. He had about 100 Men o?d not bear Arms,
under his Command. He left Georgia in April 1782. And he has from the 10 th of Bounty 200 a Y r .
Oct r 1782 rec d an Allowance from the Treasury of 200 a Y r .
1 Brother of Sir James Wright. In 1776 he was in command of a fort on the St. Mary s river which
became a general rendezvous for the Tories of that section. The fort was assailed, but the Whigs were
defeated (Sabine, op. cit., vol. ii, p. 460).
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Began to be Memorial of Gen 1 Delancey 1
M^D^^V Oliver D ^ncey-the Claimant-sworn. 3 d May 1784.
A Zealous Active Swears to the whole of his Memorial being true.
& meritorious Says he was employ d by Sir W m Howe to command on Long Island. He
Loyalist. had a civic as well as a military Command.
Bore Arms & j n 177$ he lived at Greenwich on New York Island & in consequence of
render d Services. ^ avowm g principles of Loyalty he was frequently mobbed.
Says he underwent great fatigues hardships & Dangers in the Course of the
rebellion & materially injured his health by his exertions in favor of the British
Cause. Gen 1 Delancey has at present the half pay of a Col 1 which is I2s. a Day
Bounty 300 a Y7. & an Allowance from the Treasury in the name of M rs Delancey of ^200 a Y r
& jioo in the name of Miss Delancey. Says he did raise one Batt" which he
commanded himself part of the War & it was afterwards detached to the South
ward under the Command of Col 1 Cruger.
He esteems his property in America to be worth more than 100000 St 2 .
The Expence of patenting Lands in New York was .25 for every 1000 Acres*
General Robertson sworn.
Has known Gen 1 Delancey many years before the rebellion. He was one
of the first in point of fortune & situation. He had great merit in stepping
forward to raise provincial Troops & his example had great influence. He was
amongst the first fortunes in the province. He says that American Estates are
very difficult to be estimated. He bought a great deal of Land in New Jersey.
He believes the burning of his House was a mark of their Enmity. He was
consider d as a Man of great integrity & Honor. He kept a very good table
& lived with great splendor. Being asked as to the fire He says the fire was well
contrived. He first thought it was the Enemy But he now rather thinks it was
accidental. He enquired a great deal into it but he never could find any reason
to think that it was by design.
General Stirling sworn.
Has known General Delancey many Years. He was a Colonel in the War
before the last & was always well attached to this Gov*. Gen 1 Stirling went
to America in 1776 & he found him at that time very active. Upon Sir W m
Howe s arrival at New York He offer d to raise three or four Battalions & he was
the first that did raise a Corps. These Provincial Corps were not much employ d
they were kept at New York. Knows little of his property but he was understood
to be a Man of great property & lived very well. He was in New York when
the fire happen d & thinks it was by design. Some persons were caught with
Combustibles which he looks upon as evidence of the design it broke out in three
or four places at once.
1 Oliver de Lancey was born in 1717. In 1756 and 1758 he commanded the New York Provincials
in the military operations at Lake George. He became a member of the New York Assembly in 1759
and of the Council in 1760. He died in England in October 1785 (Biog. Notice in N. York Col. Docs.,
op. cit., vol. viii, p. 788). In 1776 he was appointed Brigadier-General to raise fifteen hundred men for
the defence of Long Island (ibid., p. 687).
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Knew his House at Bloomendale. It was a new House & a large one. He
thinks it was worth about 16 or 1800 & the furniture about ^2000 or perhaps
not quite so much.
Does not know whether he ever made any Application to Gov* to be paid
for this & if he had he believes it would not have been paid.
Brig r Gen 1 Skynner sworn.
Gen 1 Delancey in 1776 came on board the Dutchess Man of War & told
General Skynner that he was going to take an active part & the next time he
saw him he was a Brig r Gen 1 but he never served with him. He always con-
sider d him as a very active Loyalist & he thinks it very possible that he may
have hurt his Health by it. He looks upon him as an active & zealous Loyalist
& that he took his part from principle.
The Gen 1 had large rights in Jersey. He purchased of the Heirs of one
Dockera more than two 24 th Shares of the whole province. 1 These rights were
granted by Charles 2 d to the Duke of York & by him to the first two Proprietors
Lord Berkley & Lord Carteret. Gen 1 Delancey had not taken out his share of
Warrants when the Committee of the Council of the proprietors examin d into
it & it was determin d that he might issue more. He did issue some & he sold
Sir Henry Clinton K.B. sworn. 12 th May 1784.
Speaks in general terms of the Loyalty of Gen 1 Delancey & speaks of him
with great respect.
Memorial of James Johnson 2 Esq. Determin d the
James Johnson Esq-the Claimant-sworn. 7 th May 1784. i" of May ,784.
Is a Native of Great Britain. Went to America in 1764 to So. Carolina.
He went as Clerk to a Prothonotary there. He was compell d to leave the
Country in 1777. He was a Civil Officer at the time the rebellion broke out. A Zealous & meri-
He was Clerk of the Crown. He had 60 Days to quit the Province. He went torious Loyalist.
to Bourdeaux & from thence to Eng d . He returned to Carolina in 1781 in Did not bear Arms.
consequence of orders given here to return. At the end of that year he was
appointed Att^ Gen 1 upon the death of Sir Egerton Leigh. Does not produce
his Commissions but promises to do it. The value of his office of Clerk of the
Crown 350 S. It was for life. He bought it of M r Cumberland whose life
was in the patent. He got about 750 a Year by his profession the Year before Bounty 120 a Y r .
he left the Country.
M r Johnson receives 120 a Y r from the Treasury & now continues to
He makes no charge or Demand for anything but the loss of his pro
Governor Bull sworn. gth Ma 7
Has known M r Johnson 10 or n Y rs ever since he grew up. He was then
1 See on The Proprietary System and the Land Troubles in the Jerseys, Fisher, op. cit., pp. 171-209
2 He acted in 1782 as British Commissioner in negotiations with a view to check plunder on both
sides (McCrady, S. Car. in the Rev., Ij8o-j, p. 658).
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Value of his Offices Clerk to the Clerk of the Pleas & Clerk of the Crown. When the times were
350 a Yy. critical he lived a good deal with Gov r Bull at his House in the Country. He
Got by his Pro- was a V ery Zealous & steady Loyalist & took his part upon principle & he believes
fession /TOO a Y r . A f i i i i i TT r r i ^
on that Ace 1 he was obnoxious to the rebels. He went out again with Gov r
Bull & he appointed him Att^ Gen 1 sometime in the Year 1782. He likewise
made him Clerk of the Crown which was 3 or 400 a Y r S. The Clerk of the
Pleas was about 900 a Year. He had the office of Clerk of the Crown & Peace
at the time of the Rebellion as appears by a Commission given to him in 1770.
The Att y Gen 1 3 office was no profit to him. He was very diligent & a very
rising Man ; & he was in very good practice. He thinks he might in the Year
1774 get 7 or j8oo a Y r by his profession. The Office of Clerk of the Crown
& Pleas was a Patent Office & not removeable but for misbehaviour.
Tho s Knox Gordon * Esq sworn.
Late Chief Justice of the province. Has been acquainted with M r Johnson
since 1771 when he first went as chief Justice. He found M r Johnson then acting
as Prothonotary of the Com. Pleas & he was then Clerk of the Crown. Clerk
of the Pleas was about 8 or 900 a Y r but he does not know the value of the
Clerk of the Crown. M r Johnson was in good practice & thinks he might have
made 7 or ^800 a Year. Fees were very high then.
Edward Savage Esq sworn.
Knew M r Johnson very well. He was 2 d Judge & went Circuits with him.
He says he was rising extremely fast & had a great deal of business & he has no
doubt but he would have made a great fortune if the troubles had not happen d.
Being asked to the profits of his profession in 1774 He Sa 7 s f rom j6oo to ^800
James Trail Esq sworn.
Was well acquainted with M r Johnson from the beginning of 1772. He
was intimate with him in 1774. He was at the Bar & was in great practice.
He was Clerk of the Crown. He was perfectly loyal & was banished by an Act
of the Legislature but his banishment was subsequence to M r Trail s leaving
the province. The value of the Office of Clerk of the Crown near 400 a Y r .
M r Johnson by his practice in 1774 made at least ^700 a Year & he thinks it
would have increased. He knows that M r Johnson had Debts owing to him
about 5000 S. before the troubles. He was called to the Bar in 1772 & he
accounts for his being worth so much Money by his having held a lucrative
Office & practised under the Bar which enabled him to save so much Money
& was likewise the reason of his coming so immediately into Business it being
like Pleading under the Bar in this Country.
1 He was a Dublin lawyer appointed Chief Justice of South Carolina by Lord Hillsborough in 1770.
Taking him as example, McCrady (S. Car. under Royal Government, 77/9-76, p. 469) laments the use
of the Bench as a place of reward for partisan services in England, and describes his appointment as that
of a vulgar, ignorant bully , for the gratification of the mistress of a Secretary .
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Memorial of Tho s Phepoe Esq.
Determin d the
rrth TVToxr TTQ,< iJetermin a the
Tho s Phepoe Esq the Claimant sworn. 2 8 th of May 1784.
Is a Native of Ireland & went to Charlestown in 1771 with M r Knox Gordon
& M r Savage. He practis d the Law there at the time of the rebellion. He
dates the commencement of the rebellion from the battle of Lexington. He
continued at Charlestown & was a Member of the rebel Assembly by the advice
of M r Knox Gordon. He was Member for Prince Frederic s Parish. He was
requested by the whole Parish (who were all loyal) to represent them. He
continued there under the rebel usurped Gov* till April 1782 when he join d
Lord Cornwallis. He did everything during the time that he lived under the A Loyalist,
rebel Gov fc to promote the Cause of Great Britain. He was always employ d But he took the
by those who were tried for Sedition. No other Lawyer dared to plead for ? t | ffi i^ t
them. He remain d at Charlestown till July 1782 when he embarked for Eng d . Carolina & served
When the British took the town Gen 1 Pattison * gave him his House & Lord as a Member of the
Cornwallis in Sept r 1780 made him a Capt" of the Militia. He took the Oaths Assembly in 1778
to the rebel Gov fc one Oath of fidelity but he did not look upon it to be binding. & *779-
He admits that he might have refused it with safety if he had quitted the province. Bounty 100 a Y r .
He was put into prison in the Year 1779 for pleading for a particular person.
He says he got from 1000 to 2000 a Year in 1773 1774 & 1775. He made 800 a Y r .
at least 900 a Y r by his profession. He had no Office.
In the Assembly he occasionally made Conciliatory propositions to promote
an Union between the two Countries. He voted ag* the Banishment Act &
spoke ag fc it. He says that he was (whilst he was a Member of their Assembly)
& ever shall be an Enemy to all their Councils & Measures.
Certificates read from Col 1 Philips to the loyalty of M r Phepoe who was
Counsel for him. He obtain d Col 1 Philips s pardon from the Gov r . He says
Col 1 Philips would have been hanged if it had not been for his interposition.
Knox Gordon Esq sworn.
M r Phepoe went to America in the same Ship with him from London.
Knew very little of him before that time. Believes he had spent his fortune
before he went out. He was admitted to the Bar as soon as he arrived there.
He got but little at first but before the King s Gov* was overturned he got
as much business as anybody. He supposes that M r Phepoe made about 900
or jiooo a Y r . The King s Courts were shut in 1775 but he continued to act
in the rebel Courts. M r Phepoe mention d to him that he had an offer to be
sent to their Assembly & asked his Opinion about it. He says that some time
before he had suspicions of M r Phepoe s loyalty & he wished to talk with him
upon the Subject. But he found him Loyal. M r Phepoe sign d the Association
which he was sorry for. The King s Gov 4 had not left the Province in 1775
when M r Phepoe mention d his Intention to him. He would not have advised
him to become a Member of the rebel Assembly if he had thought it was necessary
1 Major-General James Patteson was made Commandant of Charlestown on its capture by the British
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for him to take an Oath of fidelity to the States. He thinks he did not give
him advice so late as 1777 to go into their Assembly And thinks in such a Situation
as the Country was in in 1777 He should not have given him that Advice. He
believes he was always consider d as well inclined to the British Gov 1 by the
Tho s Burke sworn.
Lives at Charlestown. Has known M r Phepoe these ten Years their
Acquaintance commenced at Charlestown. Does not choose to answer whether
M r Phepoe took part with Great Britain or America. He believes M r Phepoe s
property has been confiscated but wishes to avoid saying whether he thinks it
will be enforced or not. No Answer. He left M r Burke his Attorney in 1782
in the Management of all his Concerns. He speaks to the House for which he
gave 1500 & he sold it for .1100. M r Burke says he has a very good Opinion
of M r Phepoe & believes he was a Loyalist at all times afterwards corrects himself
& says after the reduction of Charlestown. This Man is a Subject of the States
Lauchlan Macintosh sworn.
He lived at Charlestown & left it in 1778. He is a Lieut 1 on half pay. He
knew M r Phepoe when he first came there. He does not recollect M r Phepoe
being a Member of the Assembly. He sold some land to M r Phepoe in 1778.
He paid him ^1500 Cur. for it. Money was then depreciated. Being asked
whether he sold his property to a Loyalist or a Rebel He says he thinks no Loyalist
could buy his property. His opinion of M r Phepoe has alter d. When he went
there he thought him a Loyalist when he staid longer than he did he thought
otherwise. He now thinks him loyal again.
Doct r Fife sworn.
Has known M r Phepoe ever since he went to America. Looks upon him as
a Loyalist. He did everything at the beginning of the troubles that he could.
He did not know he had taken the Oaths to the American States at that time.
He knew he was a Member of the Assembly. He told him that he went into
the Assembly to serve Great Britain. He believes during the whole time that
he was a Member of the Assembly he was a friend to the british Gov k And when
he came over to the British Troops he believes he did it upon principle.
Edw d Savage Esq sworn.
Knows M r Phepoe. He behaved very well after he join d the British. Being
asked what his opinion of M r Phepoe s loyalty is he says it is hard to form an
Opinion of that. He believes if Interest had been out of the way that his wishes
were for Great Britain. He believes M r Phepoe was the most obnoxious Man
to the new State. With respect to his profession he says he is sure he made
more than M r Johnson about 8 or 900.
Rev d James Stewart sworn.
Has known M r Phepoe about ten Y rs . Knew him in 1775 1776 & 1777.
Did not know he was a Member of the Rebel Assembly. He consider d him
as rather a friend to this Country than otherwise tho he yielded. Believes he
always wished that this Country might get the better. In 1777 The Witness
was persecuted & he employ d M r Phepoe & he took neither fee nor reward And
he believes he did it in general to Loyalists. He offer d Money to M r Phepoe
for it but he refused it.
M rs Fortune (Wife of Col 1 Fortune) sworn. 12 th May 1784.
She knew M r Phepoe at Charlestown in the Year 1777. Believes he was
then a Member of the Assembly. Speaks of a piece of service that M r Phepoe
did to her when the Rebels took almost all she had. And this she says he did as
she believes for no other reason but to befriend her & Col 1 Fortune because they
were Loyalists. He was at this time called the lory Lawyer. She desired him
to give her his Advice in writing but he declined it saying that if he did it & was
found out he should run a risque of being hanged.
Doct r Saffory sworn.
Has known M r Phepoe about 3 Years after the Capitulation of Charles
Town. He took part with the British & was more active than most others were.
He render d every service in his power to the British Gov 4 .
Lord Cornwallis sworn. 22<1 Ma 7 J 7 8 4-
He is called by the Board to speak to the Loyalty of M r Phepoe.
M r Phepoe was at Charlestown at the time of the Surrender. He believes
he was favorable to the Loyalists but he acted under the Rebel Gov t And after
the time of surrendering himself he conducted himself very well. Says that
the Proclamations issued by him & other Commanding Officers held out great
encouragement to the Loyalists to come in & so much so that they distress d
him to know how to act when he was in the back Country.
Memorial of the Rev d M r Clarke l Determin d the
D dM7mr>i l l, n 12 th of May 1784. 12 th of May 1785.
Rev d W m Clarke the Claimant sworn. J
He swears in general terms that to the best of his Judgment every word of
his Memorial is true. He had the Living of Dedham which in the whole was
worth .50 a Year. He had besides 20 a Y r from the Society for propagating A meritorious
the Gospel which still continues. His Living for life if the troubles had not Loyalist,
N.B. The Memorial contains an Ace* of very loyal & meritorious Conduct
& great sufferings & persecution in Consequence of it. He has almost lost the
use of his Speech by the very severe Confinement which he underwent.
He says that he lost in the whole of personal Estate about 200 S. part of 120 os. od.
1 The Rev. W. Clarke died in 1815. His memorial (P. R. O., A. O. 13, Bundle 73) states that he
continued peaceably till May 1777, when on account of recommending a distressed loyalist (who had
been almost murdered and drove out of the town of Dedham by a mob) to the humanity of a gentleman
of another county, and at the same time harbouring another gentleman whom the mob had drove out
of Boston, he became himself subject to that merciless rabble. He was tried at Boston on June 9 and
would have been acquitted had he been willing to renounce his allegiance. He was condemned to be
transported as a felon to the West Indies and sent on board a guardship, where he was kept a year. The
close confinement and the unhealthy surroundings affected his lungs so as almost to deprive him of
speech ; whilst a tendency to deafness was much aggravated by his treatment. On being released in
1778, he embarked upon a British transport.
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Living 50 a Y r . this being a Bond. He is desired to say what he lost exclusive of the Bond & he
says about 120 or ^130 S.
His father died in 1768. M r Clarke was driven away from America because
he would not give his Consent to American Independence. He was tried &
condemn d to Transportation & was imprison d closely for 10 Weeks. His
treatment & persecution were the Occasion of his present Infirmities.
Bounty 60 a Y r . He receives .60 a Year from the Treasury from the io th of Oct r 1782 And
now continues to receive it. He likewise receives .20 a Y r from the Society
for propagating the Gospel. But he has no Authority for saying that this will
Rev d M r Peters sworn.
Has known M r Clarke by Character from the time he went into Orders
& personally from 1772. Knows that he had the Living of Dedham. He knows
that M r Clarke s Character was a very good one & has always heard that he was
a staunch Loyalist. In 1772 he was deaf but was able to perform Duty extremely
well but his Infirmities were not like what they are now. He has heard even
from the Rebels themselves that he was very ill treated. He is a single Man
now. He had one Child & a Wife but they are both dead. They died in Rhode
Island. Believes the Living is moderately stated.
Rev d George Bisset sworn.
Lived at Rhode Island was Rector of Trinity Church. Has known M r Clarke
from 1771 or 1772. He was settled & had the Living of Dedham does not know
the value of it but knows that he had .20 a Y r from the Society.
He believes he took the side of Gov 4 remembers his being brought to Rhode
Island to be transported. His voice was extremely good & strong when he first
knew him but when he saw him in 1778 He had almost lost it & has always
understood that he lost it in Consequence of ill treatment from the Rebels.
Memorial of John Andrews
John Andrews the Claimant sworn. 3 7 7 4-
Was born in New Jersey. In 1778 he carried an Express from Sir Rob*
Pigot l to Lord Howe & Sir Henry Clinton (produces a Certificate from Sir
Rob 1 Pigot & a Letter from Sir Henry Clinton which proves it). In consequence
of this he was tried & banished. He has done other Services but Gov* always
paid him for them. He came 4 Months ago from New York. He believes he
is to have .40 from the Treasury but he has not rec d it & it appears to be so
but the Report is not yet made to the Lords of the Treasury.
He literally has no Allowance at this moment from the Treasury but upon
Bounty 40 in full, looking into the books &c from Whitehall It is found that 40 was intended
to be recommended to him in full & instead of any Annual Allowance & for the
purpose of carrying him out again to America.
1 See note I on p. 94.
Determin d the
13 th of May 1784.
A Zealous &
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Memorial of Alexander Stenhouse Determin d the
Alexander Stenhouse-the Claimant sworn. 3 th Ma 7 1784- ^ of May l ^
Is a Native of Scotland & went to America in 1756 & settled in 1759 as a
Physician in Baltimore County & in Baltimore town in 1764. He remain d there
till 1776 when he was obliged to come away. He avow d his principles from the A Zealous
earliest moment of the troubles. In that part of the Country all those who would Loyalist,
not join the Insurgents were consider d as Enemies & those who dealt with them
before refused to continue to deal with them. He was abused as a Tory & sent
to Coventry. He left Baltimore in April 1776 & came to Philadelphia for the
purpose of embarking for Eng d & he came to Lisbon in July 1776 & from thence Bounty 80 a Y r .