Lexington he proposed to some of the middling people at New York to make
a resistance but they agreed that tho they could probably quel any opposition
in the town yet that they should be overpower d by the people of Connecticut
&c & so the scheme was dropp d at that time. He soon after left New York
& went to Canada after looking at some lands which he had at Fort Stanwix, 2
He never returned afterw ds to New York having made himself very obnoxious
by the part which he had taken in the Assembly. When it was proposed in
the Assembly to send Members to the first Congress the Measure was overruled
by the Committee of which M r Delancey was a Member. The Mob afterwards
sent Delegates. In the latter end of 1774 many steps were taken to make the
Assembly approve of the Associations &c all of which were resisted & overruled.
A Petition was then moved for & carried to the King which was likewise opposed
by the same faction. In that Petition the Authority of this Country was acknow
ledged as supreme over America but they objected to taxation. He had a great
hand in drawing the Petition. He inspected M r Rivington s Press & struck out
1 See Additional Notes, p. 211. 2 See note 2 on p. 277, infra.
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Bounty 200 a Y 1
Agent for the
Determin d the
5 th of July 1784.
everything which he thought would injure the Cause of Gov*. He came to
Eng d in the latter end of 1775.
He has an Allowance of 200 a Year from the Treasury which he has rec d
from the latter end of 1779 or 1780.
He produces no Certificates nor are there any annex d to his Memorial at
Whitehall his Character being so well known.
He was chosen by the Loyalists of the Province of New York as their Agent
to act for them in this County & he is now acting in this Situation.
The valuation put upon this Lot was done by himself & not by another
He says he valued the whole in the proportion that he sold off a little part
in the Year 1781. He says that he values at jioo what he let for .4 a Year. And
another mode he takes of estimating it is by putting 30 Years purchase upon the
Ground rents. This applies to the ^994 per Ann. He is to bring a particular
Thomas Jones Esq sworn. 3 th June 1784.
Knows the three Lots let to the Forbes s but he can t put any value upon
them. He knows they were M r Delanceys & says the rent was about .50 a Y r .
He was Agent to M r Delancey & rec d the rents for him. He says he knows
the whole of his Estate in the Island of New York produced above ^1200 a Y r
he knows it from this Circumstance that the third which was set apart for
M rs Delancey s Dower was more than ^400 a Y r . He thinks 430 a Y r . He
says it is a very valuable Estate part of it is bad Land. He thinks in quiet times
it would have sold for 70 or 80,000 Cur. He never has seen Mr. Delancey s
valuation. When he says this He means to include all his property at New York.
He can t set any value upon the other property belonging to M r Delancey.
Being desired to say what this Estate would have sold for in 1775 not valuing
it in Lots He says about .50000. He saw this property last in 1781. He would
have given ^50000 if he had wished to buy it. He says the Partition Deed of
the Minisinck patent was drawn in his office & he believes the property stated
in that Deed to belong to M r Delancey was his. Believes it was all confiscated
by an Act in the Year 1778. He has sold Lands for M r Delancey since the
Confiscation to persons who knew of the Confiscation but were willing to run
the risque & he rec d the Money for it. He sold one part for 2500 Gas & the
other for 3250 Cur.
The joint Memorial of William & James Carsan of Charlestown
Will 10 & James Carsanthe two Claimants sworn.
They are both from Scotland. Will 03 left Scotland in 1764 & James in
1760 They are not related tho their names are the same. The Claimants
enter d into partnership with one M r Currie in the Y r 1764 & remain d so till
1768 & then the two M r Carsans carried on business from 1768 to the Commence
ment of the troubles they bought out M r Currie & gave him 1000 S. besides
paying all his Expences for 3 Years. They were Partners in equal shares. They
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continued in trade till 1777 when James Carsan was banished & Will m had liberty
to remain behind for a few Months to settle the trade &c. They both swear
that they were worth above 13000 S. after all their Debts paid in the Y r 1776.
The Ace* is stated by them up to 1777 but they say that as much was due to
them in 1776 because one of the Partners was put into prison in 1776 & the
other was obliged to go into the Country. They refer to the Abstract & Schedule
produced & both swear that to the best of their knowledge it contains a true
State of their Debts & the balance in their favor. This Schedule was extracted
from their books by a Person in Town who has sworn to the truth of it before
the Lord Mayor.
Separate Memorial of W Carsan Determin d the
T c . TT 2 d July 1784. 5 th of July 1 784.
James bimpson Jisq sworn. J }
He has know him many years (W m Carsan). He was always esteem d to
be well affected to Gov* & he has reason to know that he was. He underwent A Loyalist.
a great deal of persecution & was obliged to quit the Province on ace* of his
Loyalty. He knows that the Oath was tender d to him & that he refused it
& on that Ace* was banished. He is confident that he was very loyal. Not
withstanding this He says that he believes the Claim* sign d an Association 1
which almost everybody did at that [time] which bound those who signed it to be
ready to oppose the English Gov*. The Witness did not sign this Association
himself but he says he believes there were not 40 persons in the Town who refused
to sign it.
James Trail Esq sworn.
He knew the Claim* in Charlestown very well in 1775. Says he was
universally known by everybody to be loyal. The Witness left the Country
before the Claim*. He says he believes he sign d the Association because he
was compel d to do it but his Loyalty was so well known that this Circumstance
did not alter anybody s Opinion respecting his principles. He mentions a Circum
stance to shew his Loyalty of sending provisions & intelligence to the British
when Lord W m Campbell was on board a Ship & he says he must have done this
at some personal risque.
Colonel Innes 2 sworn.
He knew the Claim* very well & his Character. He can not only vouch for
the Loyalty of this Gent n & his principles but he knew that he gave very material
Intelligence at different times at great risque to himself & that he was very active.
The Witness knows this well from having been in a public Situation in that
Country. He was Secretary to Lord Will m Campbell.
1 The South Carolina Association, formed after the arrival of the news of the battle of Lexington,
involved practically the establishment of a Provisional Government. Its members solemnly engaged
themselves to obey the Continental and Provincial Councils in the defence of their rights.
2 Alexander Innes was appointed in 1777 Inspector-General of the Provincial Forces, and was given
in 1779 the command of a regiment of South Carolina Royalists (Hist. MSS. Comm., Am. MSS. in R. Inst. y
vols. i-iv, passim). The South Carolina Royalists received lands at Country Harbor, Guysborough,
Nova Scotia, when they were disbanded in 1783 (Winslow Papers, p. 161, note).
Determin d the
8 th of July 1784.
Loyalist & suffer d
Ace* of his
Determin d the
5 th of July 1784.
Determin d the
8 th of July 1784.
Will m Carsan the Claimant sworn.
He says he very early fell under the displeasure of the Americans on ace*
of his known Loyalty. He admits that he sign d the Association but was almost
the last Man who signed it. He was three Days in a Garret before he submitted
to sign it & then he did it to avoid being tarr d & feather d & being sent to
prison which would have been the Consequence. He says he thinks he saved
Capt" Maitland s l life & Ship by some intelligence which he gave & which made
him very obnoxious to the Rebels.
The separate Memorial of James Carsan
James Carsan the Claimant sworn. 3 J / 7
N.B. All the Evidence given by M r Simpson M r Trail & Col 1 Innes with
respect to Loyalty &c applies equally to the Case of this Gent".
The Claimant is a Native of Scotland & went to Charlestown in 1760. He
was thrown into Gaol the 15 th of June 1776 on Ace 1 of his Attachment to this
Country. He was kept a close Prisoner till March 1777 when he was banished.
He never took any Oath & the reason of his persecution was that he refused to
bear Arms for the Rebels. He sign d the Association. The 14 th of June 1776
He went to inform the Gov r that he would no longer bear Arms & he sent him
Memorial of Miss Eliz th Gibbs Carsan an Infant of 9 Years of Age
by her Guardian M r W m Carsan
Will Carsan the Guardian sworn ^ * "*
The Child s father was his Brother & was strictly loyal. His Brother died
in 1777 & left her under the Guardianship of her Uncle & in case of her Death
he left the Estate to the Witness. The Estate was on John s Island & consisted
of 3000 Acres. There were above 500 head of Cattle on the Estate when he
left the place & they were many of them driven away. Some were taken by the
British & others by the Rebels.
He has every reason to believe the Number taken by the British in feb y
1780 was at least equal to what is charged in the Schedule. He values them
at 247. No Certificates were given tho the Witness frequently applied for
Certificates & for payment but he never obtained payment.
He says the Cattle charged in the Schedule to be taken by the Rebels were
taken in the Year 1782 at the time of the Evacuation.
M r Carsan is desired to make an Application to the Treasury as he says others
in the same Situation have been paid in full.
Memorial of D r Sam 1 Glossy
D r Sam 1 Clossy the Claimant sworn
He is a Native of Ireland & went to America in 1763 to New York with
a view to get into the Hospital there. At the Commencem* of the troubles
He was Professor of Anatomy & Natural Philosophy in the Kings College at
1 See McCrady, S. Carolina in the Rev., ijjj-8o, pp. 19-20.
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New York. He was so much employ d in the business of his profession that A Loyalist.
he took no part In 1775 in consequence of the Action at Lexington the violent
people came to seize D r Cooper l who was President of the College but D r Cooper
having had Intimation of it escaped & went on board Capt n Montagu s 2 Ship.
He remain d a Year after this in College. He quitted New York in the Summer
of 1776 when Gen 1 Washington took it & went into the Jerseys & returned to it
when Sir W m Howe took possession of it. He remain d there in the service of
the Hospital till the Y r 1780. He was allow d 5-r. per Day whilst he was Mate
to the Hospital & he gain d besides about j8o a Y r by teaching Anatomy &c. Professorship
As professor he had ^100 a Y r Ster g upon the foundation it was an established 100 a Y r .
sort of Fellowship. The other advantages to the professorship over & above
the Salary were about .60 a Y r .
A Certificate produced & read from D r Inglis to his Situation in the College
& to his Character likewise the same from D r Chandler but being to facts they
could not be read.
He got 60 a Y r or thereabouts by his practice independent of what he has Profits in his pro-
before stated before the troubles. The Salary of 100 a Y r He might have held ^sion altogether
for his Life if the troubles had not happen d. He has deliver d in a Schedule ^ l2
of personal Losses amounting to 753 i8j. 6d. S. exclusive of his office & his Personalty Lost
professional Situation. He says he thinks the different Articles are moderately *> X 35
There is a charge of -180 Cu. for old American Money likewise for Bonds rejected.
& Mortgages with Interest ^406 the rem r for Personalty. The old American -~ ebls
Money was stopp d by an Act of the British Par 1 previous to the troubles.
He Receives .80 a Y r from the Treasury & has rec d it about a Year. Bounty 80 a Y r .
He owes no Money in America.
Memorial of the Rev d D r Halyburton 3 Determin d the
D d r>r tr , i *t 01 8* July 1784. 8* Of July 1784.
Kev d D r Halyburton the Claimant sworn. j / /
Is a Native of Scotland. He went to America in 1757 to New York as
Chaplain to the first Reg or the Royals. He returned with the Reg 1 at the end
of the War & went again in 1766 & return d in 1768 or 1769 & has never been
1 b. 1735, d. 1785. He went to New York from England in 1762 as Professor of Moral Philosophy
at the College of New York. He became President in 1763. He published in 1774 The American
Querist and A Friendly Address to all Reasonable Americans. His strong Tory views excited the fury
of the mob, whose intention was to seize him in his bed, cut off his ears, slit his nose, and strip him
naked. He escaped, however, through the loyalty of a former pupil, and took refuge in an English ship
of war, in which soon afterwards he sailed for England. He resided for some time at Oxford, but after
wards became clergyman of the first episcopal church in Edinburgh. He died suddenly. (Biog. notice
in New York CoL Docs., vol. viii, pp. 297-8.)
2 George, b. 1750 d. 1829. Is in Diet, of Nat. Biography.
8 He is not to be confused with the father of Thomas C. Haliburton, the Chief Justice of Nova
Scotia, creator of Sam Slick, and historian of the colony.
In Acts of the Privy Council, CoL Series, Unbound Papers, p. 390, there is a petition of the Rev. W.
Halyburton, Chaplain for eighteen years to the Second Battalion of the Royal Regiment of Foot. Haly
burton claims some small share of the honour acquired by that battalion in the late war, as he failed
not to mingle with other instructions the sound military doctrines of bravery and regard to discipline
(June n, 1765).
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there since. On quitting the Army he obtain d a royal Patent for 5000 Acres
in the province of New York. Produces a Warrant or Mandamus from the
A British Subject Privy Council here dated in 1766. He tender d it in the end of the Year 1766
Not having been in t o Sir Henry Moore & the Grant pass d immediately or very soon after. He
America for many never saw them nor took any steps towards Cultivation. He says it being
trouWes" a Mandamus Grant it could not be forfeited but it would not have been so if
it had been a common Grant. He says it was very good Land. He says he was
rejected in toto. offer d 500 Cur. for it when he got the grant. He values them at 291 13^. $d.
He charges 17 Gas for the fees of the Mandamus & .27 5^. for his passage to
America in 1766.
Between the Year 1774 & the present time he has been at Sea & in Europe
& has served on board a Ship as Chaplain. He is going to Nova Scotia. 1 He
receives no Allowance from the Treasury.
Determin d the Memorial of the Earl of Dunmore 2
}< of July , 7 8 4 . ^ arl rf Dunmore _ the Claimant-sworn. 9< h of July 1 784.
Went first to America in 1769 as Governor of New York was removed to the
WasGov r ofthe Gov 1 of Virginia in 1770 & continued there till Aug* 1776, The Disturbances
Province. Acted commenced in April 1775 the People at that time armed & beset Lord Dun-
with Zeal & Spirit mO re s House. His Lordship early in June following was obliged to retire on
ServiTeft y o r t e he derd board his Ma j est 7 s Shi P ?owey having from the Month of April been obliged
British Gov 1 . to keep his Servants & family in Arms every night to protect his House.
While on board the Fowey He carried on a Negotiation with the Inha t3
for near two Months when he saw it would turn to no Ace 1 He went to Norfolk.
He had 114 Men of the 14 th Reg 1 on board & with this party he kept the province
in constant Alarm & their whole force in constant employ. Part of Norfolk was
burnt by his orders. Those who took part with the Americans were paid for
the Losses they sustain d by the State.
He rec d his Salary as Gov r till Sept r last. Says that he rais d Men in Nov r
1775 bought a Number of Vessels & fitted them for service with which he pro
ceeded to New York. The Salary was .2000. Lord North afterwards gave
him 1000 per Ann. it commenced the beginning of 1777 & ceas d with the
original Salary of the Gov r in Sept r 1773. The last half Year (.1500) was paid
to him by M r Remnant.
The Year after he came home the latter end of 1777 he rec d from Lord
North 15000 S. on Ace* of his Losses. He gave a Voucher for the same which
specified that this Sum was either in part or on Acc fc (He does not recollect which
of the terms were used) of his Losses.
2/2o th Shares of 37 497 600 Acres of Land on the river Occabeche between
rejected. the Ohio & the Missisippi. His Lordship saw some of them when he went to
fight the Indians. Says that when he came to Eng d he made an offer to Lord
Shelburne that if he would give him Men & Ammunition he & the others
concerned would go & take possession of the tract & thereby relieve this Country
1 There is no mention of him in A. W. Eaton, The Church of England in Nova Scotia.
* See Additional Notes, p. 211.
from the Necessity of making any Compensation whatever to Loyalists. It was
a purchase from the Indians in Oct r 1775. Produces a Copy of the Deed by
which it appears that a Quantity of Goods were given to them in payment.
Says that his Lordship s share of the Presents made from first to last was about
.1000 S. He makes no Claim for this as he cannot set a Value upon it but rejected,
thinks he is entitled to the Sum he laid out of 1000 S. afs d . Relates several Confiscation
Circumstances about these Lands not material to make Minutes of but to prove P roved -
they were good He says that he has been riding on Horseback within ten Yards
of another Man & has not been able to see him as the Grass was so high.
Major Grymes sworn.
Says that he was in Virg* in 1775 when the troubles broke out. Believes
that Lord Dunmore did everything that Man could do for the defence of the
province. That he rais d a Corps of Negroes & another of Whips it was in
1775 & 1776 that they were raised.
Speaks of the 579 Acres & says that it was notorious that his Lordship paid
.3 Cur. per Acre for them. The Situation was a very good one but the land
was indifferent. Does not think they would have sold for more than what he gave *
that Lord Dunmore made great Improvements. In general it was not a fertile
tract of Land. Can t say whether the Buildings were included in the .3 per Acre.
Speaks to the 2600 Acres knew them well. He was about purchasing them
the Year before Lord Dunmore a Valuable Tract. 700 Acres of it were very
valuable. Not a great many buildings. Did not see them after Lord Dunmore
got them the 700 Acres of plain Land he thinks were well worth .5 Cur. or
even $ S. per Acre. The other land was Mountain. The whole was valued
by the Committee at 40^. an Acre he thought it very fully valued at 40^. Mills
Major Grymes says are always valued separately. He is not able to speak to the
value of Lord Dunmore s property.
Major Gen 1 Read sworn.
Speaks to the 51000 Acres. Says that he has understood it was in Vermont.
If the Vermontese establish their independence he thinks the Tract will be within
their State. Believes there were Settlers thereon. Has heard from his own
Surveyor a good deal about these Lands. Thinks if Lord Dunmore could have
kept it it would have proved a very valuable Estate. His Surveyor was employed
by Lord Dunmore in letting the Lands. Has not a Doubt but Lord Dunmore
would soon have reaped benefit from this Estate that 2 some of the people who
had settled without Lord Dunmore s permission had disposed of the good Will
of what they had so taken from one to two Dollars per Acre between 1771 &
1774. Had it not been for the War Lord Dunmore would certainly have got
full poss n of the whole. He says that tho the Vermontese should gain their
point he does not think that Lord Dunmore could claim this property as the
Grant was under the great Seal of New York however desirous they may be
of indulging the Subjects of Great Britain. He thinks that in 1774 the tract
was worth upon the most moderate Computation $s. an Acre.
1 ? Insert or . a ? Omit that , and begin new sentence with Some *.
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Bounty 100 a Y r .
Determin d the
3i st of July 1784.
Determin d the Memorial of James Minzies
I 9 th of July 1784. . . 10 th July 1784.
James Minzies the Claimant sworn. J J
He is a Native of Scotland. Went to Virginia in 1763 & was employed by
M r Blair l the Deputy Auditor of the Revenue in auditing the Accounts of his
A Loyalist. Majesty s Revenue & new modeling the Rent Rolls of the Quit Rents continued
in that Office till March 1772 when Lord Dunmore appointed him his private
Secretary. He continued with Lord Dunmore during the whole of his Gov*.
His emoluments as private Secretary were 250 per Ann. on an Average.
Salary & Fees as Superintend* of the Auditors Office 120 per Ann.
He was also Clerk to the Committee for encouraging of Arts & Manufactures.
.40 per Ann. S.
Came to Eng d with Lord Dunmore & has been allowed ^100 per Ann. by
the Treasury since the 5 th of Jan y 1783. The aforement d Employments were
Memorial of John Lewis
John Lewis the Claimant sworn. J 7 7 4
Is a Native of Great Britain. Went to America in 1749 & continued there
till Oct r 1783. Was an Inhabitant of New York at the Commencement of the
troubles. Lived in an House of his own & kept Cows. In the latter end of the
Year 1775 he was called upon to take the Oaths but on his refusal he was put
into Gaol at Lancaster where he continued till the Arrival of the British Troops
when he made his Escape & got into New York where he was embodied in the
City Militia. Says that he was employed by a M r Stephens to collect Straw
for the Army at Boston & was allow d 4^. per Day New York Currency for about
6 Weeks that he was so employed.
Bounty 20 a Y r . Has been allow d 20 per Ann. by the Treasury from the 5 th of Jan y 1784.
Produces Certificates from Gen 1 Tryon M r John Wetherhead M r John
Newstead & M r Tho s Hughes to his Loyalty & Property.
Disallowed. Says he lost three Horses. One was shot at the battle of Brandywine.
He kept a Waggon & it was employ d by the Army.
John Newstead sworn.
Knew the Claimant & says that he often check d him for speaking his Mind
too freely z that he was embodied in the Militia at New York.
Determin d the Memorial of Sir W m Pepperell 3 Bar 1
22d of W 7 8 4- Sir Will- Pepperell Bar -the Claimant-sworn. J ul ? the I2th 7 8 4-
Is a Native of New Eng d . Shew d his Attachment to this Country on the
destruction of the Tea. In 1774 He was appointed a Mandamus Counsellor.
1 He was also Clerk to the Council. z ? Insert and .
3 Sir W. Pepperell was the son of Nathaniel Sparhawk, who married the daughter of Sir William
Pepperell, the hero of Louisbourg . Under the terms of his grandfather s will William became heir
on condition that he took the name of Pepperell. He was allowed to take the title of Sir William
Pepperell, Baronet. His estate in Maine extended from Kittery to Saco on the coast and many miles
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Very soon after this his Estate was sequester d by a Resolve of the County of A Zealous Loyalist
York in Nov r 1774. Prior to this time Sir W m who then resided on Jamaica & by the early &
Plains near Boston was obliged to retire into the Town for safety & to avoid decided part he
the fury of the Mob who he was informed intended to attack his House with JoVL render d
a view of forcing him to resign his Seat at the Council Board. He nevertheless material Service,
kept his Seat till a Month previous to the Evacuation of Boston when from Did not bear Arms.
a Conversation with the Commander in Chief learning that the Council were
of no longer use he came to Eng d .
Sir W m was one of the first who signed the Association for the defence of
the place & held himself ready to do Duty if called upon. Produces in evidence