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. . . O good fellow. All got dark, then it grew light. Where is Uncle Will ?
I met Uncle Willie, William. (I don't know what you mean.) Ask Mother.
She'll know. [G. P. had no Uncle William deceased. He had a deceased
great-uncle William, on his mother's side, who was thus the uncle of his
mother deceased and his stepmother living, who are sisters.]

Go up to my room. (Which room ?) Up to my room, where I write. I'll
come. Speak to me, John. (What room?) Study. (You said something about
a desk just now.) I left things all mixed up. I wish you'd go up and straighten
them out for me. Lot of names. Lot of letters. I left things mixed up. You
answer them for me. Wish I could remember more, but I'm confused.
CLUB. Went to the Club. Two things at the Club to make right. (What
Club ?) His hand-er (handkerchief). Handkerchief. (What does he want
with his handkerchief ?) I left it at the Club. (What Club ?) OUR...
did you find it ? (Yes, no, you haven't told me at what Club.) I saw you there.
It isn't like you, John. [The last time I saw G. was at the Players' Club in
New York. J. H.]

Who's Rogets? [Phinuit tries to spell the real name.] (Spell that again.)
[At the first attempt afterwards Phinuit leaves out a letter, then spells it
correctly.] Rogers. (What do you want Rogers to get?) I want you to tell
Rogers to get my handkerchief. I left it. He found it. Rogers has got a
book of mine. (What is he going to do with it ?)

[Both Hart and G. P. knew Rogers, who at that time had a certain MS.
book of G. P. in his possession. The book was found after G. P.'s death and
given to Rogers to be edited. G. P. had promised during his lifetime that a
particular disposition should be made of this book after his death. This action
which G. P. living had contemplated with regard to the book was here, and in
subsequent utterances which from their private nature I cannot quote, enjoined
emphatically and repeatedly, and had it been at once carried out, as desired by
G. P., much subsequent unhappiness and confusion might have been avoided.
Neither Hart nor Rogers knows anything of the handkerchief incident.]

During the latter part of the sitting, and without any relevance to the
remarks immediately before and after, which were quite clear as expressions
from G. P., came the words, "Who's James? Will William." [It must
be remembered that Phinuit was talking throughout.] This was apparently
explained by Phinuit's further remarks at the close of the sitting.


Phinuit : Who's Alice ? (What do you want me to say to her ?) [To R. H.]
Alice in spirit. Alice in spirit says it's all over now, and tell Alice in the
body all is well. Tell Will I'll explain things later on. He [George] calls
Alice, too, in the body. I want her to know me, too, Alice and Katharine.
. . . Speak to him. He won't go till you say good-bye. [The hand then
wrote : George Pelham. Good day (?) John.]

[Phinuit's reference seemed to be quite clear at the time to Professor
William James, and the three Alices were discriminated. It seemed as though
Phinuit's mention of the other Alices had reminded G. P. of the one well
known to him. Alice James, the sister of Professor William James, had
recently died in England. The first name of Mrs. James is also Alice.
Alice, the sister of Katharine, is the youngest daughter of Mr. Howard and
was very fond of G. P.]

As I have already said, the most personal references made at the
sitting cannot be quoted; they were regarded by J. H. as profoundly
characteristic of Pelham, and in minor matters, where my notes were
specially inadequate, such as in the words of greeting and occasional
remarks to the sitter, the manner of reference to his mother with him
" spiritually," and to his father and [step] mother living, &c., the sitter
was strongly impressed with the vraisemblance of the personality of

959 B. [Dr. Hodgson's Report continues as follows : ]

It so happened that appointments had been made for other sitters, and
it was nearly three weeks before a special opportunity was given for further
communication from G. P., at a sitting when Mr. and Mrs. James Howard
were present alone. In the interim I accompanied several different
persons to their sittings, and at each of these Phinuit represented G. P. as
anxious to see his friends, using some remark as " George says, when are
you going to bring Jim ? " or " George says he wants to tell you about the
philosophy of this life." One only of these sitters, Mr. Vance, had been
known to G. P., and at the beginning of his sitting, which was on March
3oth, 1892, G. P. first wrote a few words to myself expressing a wish to see
his father (Mr. P.) about some private matters; then Phinuit spoke for
him, saying, " I want to tell you where I am and what I am doing and
what this life consists of." Then references were made to two other
friends of G. P., who had also been mentioned at John Hart's sitting, and
then for the first time the sitter was noticed. " How is your son? I want
to see him some time." " Where did he know my son? " " In studies,
in college." This was correct : Mr. Vance had a son who was class-mate
of G. P. Mr. Vance then asked : " Where did George stay with us? " and
received a correct answer, a description of his country house being given.
(Ste Report, pp. 457-8.)

At the Howards' first sitting, on April nth, 1892, for which 1
the appointment, of course without giving names, Phinuit said very little.
After a few words at the beginning he gave way for what purported to be
G. P. using the voice, and during nearly the whole of the time of trance


apparently G. P. controlled the voice directly. The statements made were
intimately personal and characteristic. Common friends were referred to
by name, inquiries were made about private matters, and the Howards,
who were not predisposed to take any interest in psychical research, but
who had been induced by the account of Mr. Hart to have a sitting with
Mrs. Piper, were profoundly impressed with the feeling that they were in
truth holding a conversation with the personality of the friend whom they
had known so many years. The following passages are from Mr. Howard's
notes taken during the sitting, and may serve to suggest to some extent
the freedom with which the conversation was carried on. All the refer-
ences to persons and [incidents] are correct.

G. P. : Jim, is that you ? Speak to me quick. I am not dead. Don't think
me dead. I'm awfully glad to see you. Can't you see me ? Don't you hear
me ? Give my love to my father and tell him I want to see him. I am happy
here, and more so since I find I can communicate with you. I pity those people
who can't speak ... I want you to know I think of you still. I spoke to John
about some letters. I left things terribly mixed, my books and my papers ; you
will forgive me for this, won't you ? . . .

(What do you do, George, where you are ?)

I am scarcely able to do anything yet ; I am just awakened to the reality of
life after death. It was like darkness, I could not distinguish anything at first.
Darkest hours just before dawn, you know that, Jim. I was puzzled, confused.
Shall have an occupation soon. Now I can see you, my friends. I can hear
you speak. Your voice, Jim, I can distinguish with your accent and articula-
tion, but it sounds like a big bass drum. Mine would sound to you like the
faintest whisper.

(Our conversation then is something like telephoning?)


(By long distance telephone.)

[G. P. laughs.]

(Were you not surprised to find yourself living ?)

Perfectly so. Greatly surprised. I did not believe in a future life. It was
beyond my reasoning powers. Now it is as clear to me as daylight. We
have an astral fac-simile of the material body. . . . Jim, what are you writing

[G. P. when living would probably have jeered at the associations of the
word "astral." R. H.]

(Nothing of any importance.)

Why don't you write about this ?

(I should like to, but the expression of my opinions would be nothing. I
must have facts.)

These I will give to you and to Hodgson if he is still interested in these

(Will people know about this possibility of communication?)

They are sure to in the end. It is only a question of time when people in
the material body will know all about it, and every one will be able to com-
municate. ... I want all the fellows to know about me. . . . What is Rogers
writing ?

(A novel.)

959 B] TO CHAPTER IX 615

No, not that. Is he not writing something about me ?

(Yes, he is preparing a memorial of you.)

That is nice ; it is pleasant to be remembered. It is very kind of him. He
was always kind to me when I was alive. Martha Rogers [deceased daughter]
is here. I have talked with her several times. She reflects too much on her
last illness, on being fed with a tube. We tell her she ought to forget it, and
she has done so in good measure, but she was ill a long time. She is a dear
little creature when you know her, but she is hard to know. She is a beautiful
little soul. She sends her love to her father. . . .

Berwick, how is he? Give him my love. He is a good fellow; he is what
I always thought him in life, trustworthy and honourable. How is Orenberg?
He has some of my letters. Give him my warmest love. He was always very
fond of me, though he understood me least of all my friends. We fellows
who are eccentric are always misunderstood in life. I used to have fits of
depression. I have none now. I am happy now. I want my father to know
about this. We used to talk about spiritual things, but he will be hard to
convince. My mother will be easier. . . .

[As stated above, all the references to persons, incidents, characters, &c., so
far as they are known to living persons, are correct.]

Among the private matters referred to was the disposition of the book,
concerning which G. P. expressed orally the same desire as before. (See
above, p. 612.) The only writing produced at this sitting moreover was
confined to this matter, and was a message to his father repeating his

He referred to a tin box of German manufacture which he said was

either in New York or Z [giving the name, a very peculiar one, of the

locality of his father's country residence] . He said that it contained letters
from three persons whom he specified. He wished the Howards to have
this box. They replied that the letters were all burned.

G. P. : I think not. I want you to have them. I want you to tell my
father about this.

(Can't you give us something that will convince him ? something we don't
know and he does ?)

I understand, a test. You can tell him about this tin box that I left in my
room. I know they have taken the chest, but this tin box they have not.
[The box was found at Z , but there were no letters in it R. H.]

[Mr. Vance, the sitter of March 30th, 1892, had sent me two questions for
G. P., which I requested the Howards to put at their sitting. The questions
were" i . What was the purpose of the association you formed two years'ago
with Miss Helen Vance and two other ladies? 2. Give the names of the two
other ladies." My impression is that I gave Mr. Howard my recollection of
these questions without having the original letter of Mr. Vance at hand, and
probably Mr. Howard put the questions as I gave them to him. His account
is as follows : ]

Then we put two test questions, by request of Mr. Hodgson : ist. What was
the nature of the Society formed by you and some other young people ?
was obviously confused, and in trying to answer said " development." We t<
him not to bother about it now, but to tell us at next sitting, a proposal which


Phinuit recommended, but he himself in his gruff voice suggested " Theo-
sophic." I told him no. He made a try at question 2nd. Names of members
of Society, " Helen Bering Derrich, or Herrick." [The questions were ap-
parently not asked until towards the end of the sitting, and Phinuit had
evidently taken control of the voice and was acting as intermediary. The
answer must be called wrong, although Helen was the first name of one of the
members. R. H.]

959 C. [The following is from Dr. Hodgson's report in Proceedings
S.P.R., vol. xiii. pp. 353-57-]

I close this section of my Report by a brief account of the case of the
friend whom I have called Mr. Hart, to whom in the first instance G. P.
manifested (see 959 A), and who himself died in Naples on May 2nd, 1895.
As in G. P.'s case, I substitute other names for the real ones. I had not
been having regular series of sittings at this time, and heard incidentally
on May 3rd that a cablegram had been received by a relative announcing
the death of Hart. My assistant, Miss Edmunds, went out to Mrs. Piper
at my request to arrange a sitting for me for the next day, May 4th, and
to say that it was extremely important that I must have the sitting. I
did not tell Miss Edmunds the reason, and she made a totally erroneous
conjecture concerning it. The announcement of the death, however,
with the place and cause of death (inflammation of the heart), appeared
in a Boston evening paper on May 3rd. At the sitting on May 4th, after
a few words from Phinuit, G. P. wrote and gave several messages from
friends, and then asked what he could do for me. I replied that I had
something for him to do, but could not tell him what it was. He made a
brief reference to his father and mother, and then to a friend of my own,
and then came the following :

Hold, H. See all of these people bringing a gentleman. [R. H. thinks this
is unintentionally written, and doesn't repeat the words aloud.]

Read ... do you see them, H. ? (No.) He is coming here. I think I
knew him. [R. H. can't decipher after think.] That I knew him. Come here
and listen, H. He has been here before and I have seen him since I passed
out. (Who is it?) John. " Do you see me, H. ? " He says this. (No.) "What
about my health ? Oh, George, I am here, do not go away from me," . . . not
to you, H., to me. (Yes, I understand.) " I thought I should see you once
more before I came here." (What is the full name?) John H. (Give me the
second name in full.) Did you speak ? (Write the second name in full.) Hart.
(That's right, Hart, old fellow.) "Will you listen to me, Hodg . . . [Much
excitement in hand, and letters jumbled over. G. P. writing throughout, but
at times apparently much perturbation introduced.] George knew I was here
and met me, but I was too weak to come here and talk, H ." . . . Yes, H.,
but the dear old fellow is short-breathed. ..." I expected to see you before
I came here, H. (Yes, I hoped to have met you in the body again) but you
see I was failing. How are you ? "

What [apparently from G. P. to Hart.]

" I brought Ge here first." (Yes, you did.)

Yes, I do [from G. P. to Hart.] [More probably from Hart to G. P., in



answer to some such question as " Do you mean me ? " from G. P to Hart

Oh, what about me, H. ?

(He means your first messages came to him.)

Oh, I see ! but I was ... but (you were out of the body) yes. ..." I am
a little dull, H., in my head." (Isn't the light good to-day ?) Yes, but it is I,
H., my (you mean you are not in good trim, George?) No no I Hart no]
H. I Hart (I see, Hart is dull, Hart can't do so well.) [H. is the initial of
Hart's real name. 1898.] [Thump with fist. Much thumping with fist during
sitting, indicative of assent at different times.]

The above is transcribed from the type-written copy of the record of
the sitting, and the quotation marks were doubtless inserted by myself to
make the record clearer. There was much confusion in the rest of the
sitting. The cause of death he stated to be inflammation of the stomach,
which was not correct, though he had suffered much from this for a year
before his death. I may have known of this, but was not consciously
aware of it. I knew that he had been ill in Europe, but when I last heard
from him several months previously, I understood that he had recovered.
There were confused references to the Howards. He referred to two
other friends in Europe (whose names had been given in previous sittings
by G. P.), mentioned several names unknown to me, and referred to
incidents in connection with them, as well as other matters, none of
which, for family reasons, I have yet been able to verify. I think it
probable that they will be partially, but only partially correct. There
seemed to be glimpses here and there of a clear consciousness. He
wanted to know if it was Paris (where he had stayed some time while in
Europe). I said it was Arlington Heights.

"Arlington, I remember Arlington did you not take me here? (Yes, this
is the very room where George came to you.) Oh yes, I had his [article of
G. P. specifically mentioned] and my watch. . . . Will they send my body on
to New York? (I don't know.) I hope they will. They are now talking
about it." [I learned later that the desirability of taking the body to America
was discussed.]

When I asked, " Why didn't George tell me to begin with ? " he
replied, " Because I told him to let me come and tell myself." This was
like Hart, and so was the statement quoted above that it was he who
brought G. P. first.

At this sitting, and several also in the following week, during which
the confusion continued, a knowledge was shown of various matters known
to me which were specially suggestive of Hart, references to friends and
relatives, presents which he had given to me, jokes about cigars, magazines
which he had entrusted to me just before he went to Europe three years
previously, &c., but of course I was anxious to obtain information con-
cerning events in Europe of which I was entirely ignorant, especially any
that occurred just before his death ; and I have such on record, but have


not yet succeeded in discovering how much correct statement they
include. Between the first and second sitting it occurred to me that the
announcement of his being there to communicate was " led up to " by
G. P., and at the second sitting, when Hart wrote part of the time
himself, I said, " I suppose last time you thought I took your coming very
coolly." The hand wrote excitedly: "You seemed very inconsiderate to
what you used to do." I explained that I had heard of his death by a
cablegram which had been received by his " brother-in-law." He then
wrote the name of the brother of his sister s husband. I said no, " your
wife's brother."

Another incident at the same sitting showed a curious remembrance.

. . . Ask for my cigar case . . . am I dreaming ... I think I know
that once I sat in this corner [hand points to other side of the room,
to place where Mrs. Piper sat at time when Hart attended his sitting on
March 22nd, 1892.] (You mean you sat there ?) Yes I did (yes, I remember)
I know where I am now.

As I recall this incident, I did not understand what was meant at
first when the hand pointed, as it was more than three years since
Mrs. Piper had sat there. That position in the room was not associated
specially in my mind with Hart, as various other persons whom I had
accompanied to sittings had sat in the same position, both before and
after Hart's sitting, and it was only after April 29th, 1892 (see Report,
p. 292), when I succeeded in getting the hand to write with the block-
book on the table instead of on the top of Mrs. Piper's head, that
I requested Mrs. Piper to change her position, so that there might be
plenty of room for the table and for a sitter on the other side of it.
But the occasion was a very memorable one to Hart, and if he was
communicating and waking to a consciousness of his surroundings, it
was a natural observation for him to make.

In June and July a friend of mine was having a series of sittings,
and Hart sent a message to me through him ; he was becoming clearer,
and wished to communicate. There were no opportunities for any
further series of sittings, however, and Mrs. Piper stopped sitting for
her summer rest, and I visited England later. Few sittings were given
in the winter of 1895-6 owing to Mrs. Piper's ill-health. Hart gave
brief messages on several occasions; said that he wanted to follow in
" G. P.'s tracks," and seemed somewhat aggrieved, so to speak, because
he did not have the same opportunity as had been afforded to G. P.
Thus, on January 22nd, 1896 :

. . . What in the world is the reason you never call for me? I am
not sleeping. I wish to help you in identifying myself, ... I am a
good deal better now. (You were confused at first.) Very, but I did not
really understand how confused I was. It is more so, I am more so when I
try to speak to you. I understand now why George spelled his words to


me. 'Several sentences, even of ordinary words, were spelt out by Phinuit
from G. P. at his first appearance, to Hart.]

He became clearer later on, and purported to take part in an inquiry
I was making concerning a person's whereabouts in Mexico. It was
during this time that Miss Warner (Report, p. 324) had her two sittings,
January 6th and 7th, 1897. She remarked to me during the sitting of
January 7th, 1897, that Hart knew one of her brothers, Charlie, and
that they went to the Azores together. I asked Phinuit if he or G. P.
could get Hart. Shortly afterwards G. P. wrote, and after a short con-
versation with the sitter came the following :

Did you have a brother Jack, Hart asks. (Yes.)

[For Hart] I am here. George, tell her I see her and I long to ask her
brother if he recalls the storm we experienced.

(I know he does. I've heard him speak of it.)

Good, and ask him if he still has the stick like mine. Take the pipe, old
chap, I do not wish it. Hear you? (R. H. : Yes, it may be the one he
gave me) and I have it in my mind. A memento. He ought to have it.
[Hart gave me a pipe. It is not clear whether the reference is to this, or
to one connected with sitter's brother. R. H.]

We went to a queer little hotel, at a little hotel together. Charlie had
a headache from hunger. We were almost starved when we got there, the
food was bad, the food was so bad, poor. I am content here, quite. Do you
ever see me as I really am ? (No. I don't see you at all.) Not at all. I do,
H. Hear Hart say have a smoke, anything for relief. Ask him [Charlie]
about this for me. Hungry. (R. H. : He's still talking about Charlie and
their experiences together ?) Yes, H. He is.

(Tell some more.) We went up to the hotel and ask him if he recalls
the laugh we had after we got to our room. Give him my love.

(What did you laugh about?) because of the dirt, &c. . . . very amusing.
He has not been well but he is going to be. [Disturbance in hand.] Hold
on, old man, I cannot hear if you grab me in this way.

Did you ever have a fever ?

(R. H. : Who says that?) I, J. H.

(Do you mean me ?) Yes. (Yes. I had a fever. Pneumonia, and typhoid
fever.) Never have another. Going to be well now. I said it. (Do you
mean me?) Yes, Charles too. Give him my love and do not forget about
the stick. . . .

Miss Warner wrote :

I had known that Charley and Hart took a trip in a sailing vessel to the
Azores, but absolutely no details, except that the boat was driven on the rocks
and they watched her break up.

This was all she could recollect in connection with the statements
made by Hart about her brother. I remembered also about the ship-
wreck at the Azores, but had no recollections of any sort connecting
Hart with Charley Warner, or about any of the other incidents referred
to. I think, however, that as Hart himself told me of the shipwreck


at the Azores, he probably mentioned Warner in connection with it.
He may possibly also have spoken of some of the other incidents. But
I am unable to recall the vaguest memory of any sort about them.
Charley Warner was then in California, and in reply to inquiries he
wrote on February 2nd, 1897:

J. H. and myself once were hove to on the North Atlantic for about three
days during a severe storm. At another time we were at Horta, Fayal
Island, and watched our vessel drag ashore and break up on account of
a very bad storm, or hurricane. J. H. had a very serviceable stick. As I
remember it, a stout little blade dropped out of the ferrule. I never had one
like it that I can remember. He thought highly of it and advised me to get
one like it. I don't remember anything about a pipe. What he says about
the queer little hotel is all true ; I don't remember that I had a headache,
but we were hungry. J. H. was extremely amused about something at that
hotel and we had a hearty laugh. It was connected with dirt.

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