Indiana. Shipping Interests.

Answer of the shipping interests of Indiana and the Indianapolis Freight Bureau to the remarks of Mr. G. J. Grammer at conference held on November 19th, 1906, between the Indiana Railroad Commission and special committees representing the raliroads and commercial bodies of larger cities of the state online

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INEQUALITIES
LIS INTERESTS.
C. F. A. Territory.

relative basis

20c should apply from Indi-
an anapolis, viz.:

20 To Cincinnati, 14%

20 To Jeffersonville, 14%

To New Albany, 14%

To Louisville, 15%



Castings. Prom Chicago,

To lv St. Louis. 10c
L. From Indianapolis,

To E. St Louis, 13%
It is stated Chgo. lines
are protecting 8c per cwt
on loo.- ags.



Fresh Meat.

9 tO

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on.
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Provisions.

L.

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Indianapolis should have
same rate as published
from Chgo., viz.: Same to
apply on castings,
loose, 10c



From Chicago,

To Detroit. 20c

3%c less than 3d class.
From Indianapolis,

To Detroit. 24%

or 3d class.



Indianapolis should have
same rate as from Chgo.,
being practically the
same distance, 20c



From Chici

To Detroit, Mich.,
Ic under "th class.
From Indianapolis,

To Detroit, Mich.,
5th class.






14



Indianapolis should have
same rate as from Chgo.,
being practically the
same distance, 12c



Sheet 13.
Between Various Points in C. F. A. Territory.



Hides. G. S.
C. L.

5th class.



From St. Louis,

To Boyne City,

Mich.,

To Cheboygan,

Mich., 20%

or 5c less than 6th
class.
From Indianapolis,

To Boyne City,

Mich., 25

To Cheboygan,

Mich., 23

or 5th class.



Rate from Indianapolis

on same relative basis

20%c would be, 15c



Hides. G. S.
C. L.
5th class.



From St. Louis,

To Holland, Mich., 14%

To Grand Haven, 14%

To Muskegon, 14%

or lc below 6th class.

From Indianapolis,

To Holland, Mich., 15%

To Grand Haven, 15%

To Muskegon, 15%

5th class.



Rate from Indianapolis
on same relative basis
would be, 12c



L8

('/minii'in Indianapolis Freight Committee,

Indianapolis, Ind.

Dim; Sir; Under prevailing conditions governing
the making of rates to aon-prorating points in Mississippi
M,\ and adjacent territory where combination of rates
to and from Memphis, Ne\s Orleans, etc., effecl the lowi
through rates, such combination through rates are author-
ised from Chicago, Cincinnati, Louisville, Evansville, St.
Louis and .-ill points west of the Endiana-Illinois state
line while from Indianapolis, under agreemenl of the
roads, through rates to the territory mentioned must be
made by the sums of local rates from [ndianapolis to Ohio
River Crossings or St. Louis, plus the rates from thi
points. This, we contend, is wrong both in principle and
application t<> forbid the use of the lower combination from
one section while authorizing and permitting the practice
from other and favored localities — and having in mind
that [ndianapolis is intermediate l>.\ routes over which the
low er basis appli<

Subjecl i<> these unfair conditions, Indianapolis is ;ir
decided disadvantage in rates i" the territory in question.
\ fi'w comparisons, as shown mi attached sheets numbered
if to 17 inclusive, will serve to illustrate the hardship to
oin- interests.

w -• ask thai the present rule or agreement among the
roads he set aside and permil rates to be made from In-
dianapolis, using the combination on Mississippi Valley
points the same ;is authorized from tin- other places, all
competitive with our interests here; and request that seri-
ous i onsideration be Riven this subiect ;it the next meeting
of your committee and action taken that will present the
matter to the Central Freighl Association for attention by
th;it i»<>d\ ;ii it^ next meeting in September.

A r..|.\ of iiiis letter is being mailed id the traffic of-
ficials of Mi.' Beveral Indianapolis roads.

\ i rv i nil v yours,



Commissioner.
August 29, L90<



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Chairman Indianapolis Freight Committee,

Indianapolis, Ind.

Dear Sir: — We desire to call attention to the dis-
parity in rates from Indianapolis as compared with Chi-
cago and Cincinnati to points in Tennessee and M 88 -

sippi.

Tariffs carrying through rates are published from
Chicago and from Cincinnati, but not from Indianapolis,
and our rates through to the territory in question are made
on sums of local rat- 3 Ohio River Crossings, plus r?
from thoa ots, resulting in much higher rates from In-

dianapolis than in effect from Chicago and Cincinnati.
The enclosed sheets numbered l v t 21 inclusive present
a comparison of some of the rates referred to.

YW note the nice alignment pres d throughout in
rates from Chicago and Cincinnati and we are certainly
entitled to the same relative adjustment, being intermedi-
ate, observing Cincinnati rates as maxima from Indian-
apolis.

We ask that through rates on that basis be shown in
Mississippi and Tennessee Junction Tariff No. 3 and other
issues which may be published under authority of Central
Freight Association roads.

Please bring this subject before the next meeting of
your committee that action may be taken to present the
matter to the Central Freight Association for considera-
tion of that body at its September meeting.

Very truly touts,



1 'lninissioner.
August 29, 1906.



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Chairman Indianapolis Freight Committee,

Indianapolis, Ind.

in \k Sib: Class and commodity rates from Indian-
apolis are held on a much higher basis than Chicago and
Cincinnati on traffic destined bo territory in Louisiana,
along the Texas & Pacific and Southern Pacific Railways.

Prom Chicago and Cincinnati the Btraighl New Or-
leans rates apply to manj of the points, and the others take
certain arbitraries over \<u Orleans rates, making in all
cases much lower rates than effective from Indian-
apolis on the present basis, whereby our through rates are
made up on locals to Ohio River Crossings pins the rates
from those points. Sheets aumbered 22, ~:\ and 24, en-
closed herewith, show the inequalities referred to in cL
rates and on some of the more important commodities. In
our exhibit on commodity rates we use Plaquemine, Lou-
isiana, merely as an illustration to show the inequality
which applies in like manner to all the other points.

We ask that the existing unjust restrictions be remov-
ed and that Indianapolis be given the same basis for
through rates to the territory in question as authorized
from the other points as shown in exhibits. Our manufac-
turing and shipping interests are entitled to this — being
intermediate and competition requires that our rates be
adjusted to a proper relative basis with other points and
disi rict 3.

Please submit this subject to your committee at its
aext meeting that anion may be taken to present the mat-
ter to the Central Freight Association Cor consideration
at the September meeting of that body.

< Jopies of this letter are being mailed to traffic officials
of i he several Indianapolis roads.

\ - !\ i ruly yours,



( commissioner.
August 30, L90I



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Sheet 23.

■ in Indpls. Relative

Commodity Rates. From 'Sums of basis from

... ' Chicago. < incinnnti. ocal rates to Indpls. with

'" Through Through Olilo River Clntl. rate

Plaquemine, La. \u\ tariff, and beyond, as max'm,

CL LCL OL LCL CL LCL CL LCL

Baking Powder n 58 54 17 69 39 54

29 36% 29

Canned I :;:; '" ::1 :;l 37 % 55% : '-l 34

1" 1} 51% 14

Furniture:

Iron or brass), Wire

Mattresses and Cots, Spring

Beds, Wood dibs and

Chairs, Metallic Couch

Curtain Poles —

in mixed carloads •"•" '" 62% 11

Kitchen Safes i~ ' ' 59% 1 1

Window class n 14% 36

Refrigerators 5s 71 54 72 60 1 - 54 72

ial Iron 26 29 29 36% 37% 29 29

Paints 26 29 36% 29

Paper:

Roofing and building 29 35

Starch 35 33 37 33

St i >\ es : '" :;:; :; i ;;: '

Woodenware 34 13% 34

Machinery 41 44% 39

♦Lowest Combination.







Sheet 24.


Relative










basis from


Commodity Rates.


From


From From


Indpls. with
Cincti. rate


To




Chi< ago.


Cincinnati, [nd'napolis.


as maxim.


Napoleon ville,


La,


19


17 50%


47


Machinery.




X. Orleans,


N. Orleans, Ohio River.


Indpls. to


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ii


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N.Or'ns, 39








N.Or'ns,29








Arbitv. s


Arbity. 8 Arbity, 8


Arbity. 8






Thr'gh, 19


Thr'gh, 17 Thr'gh 50%


Thr'gh, 17


To




34


36


30


Howell, La.




N. Orleans,


X. i >rleans, Ohio River,


Indpls. to


Iron Pipe.




26


22 L0


N.Or'ns, 22


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Arbitv s


Arbity. 8 N.Or*ns,18


Arbity. s






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Thr'gh, 30 Arbitv. 8
Thr'gh, 36


Thr'gh, 30


To




11


39 15%


39


Thibodaux, La




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X i >i leans. ( )hio River,


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N.Or'ns, 31


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Arbity. 8






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Furniture:
Iron beds,
cribs, mattresses.
In mixed carloads.


62

X. Oil>

50

Arbity. 12

Thr'gh, 62


59 74

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17 27

Arbity. 12 N.Or'ns.35

Thr'gh, 59 Arbity. 12

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N.Or'ns, (7

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Secretary Indianapolis Freight Committee,

I a ilia n a pol is. I ml.

Dear Sir — Replying to your letter of the 18th inst.,
with reference to our Sheets 4 and 5. We are wholly at loss
to understand what is meant by your Committee in assert-
ing that with exception of exhibit presented on chairs, the
inequalities shown in ratings on the other commodities
treated in these sheets were not serious enough to warrant
any charge; also that some of the commodities mentioned
are not shipped from Indianapolis. That is a most remark-
able statement to emanate from a committee supposed to
look after the questions of proper rate adjustments on
behalf of industries here, that fair treatment may be ac-
corded in keeping with ratings on our commodities au-
thorized and in effect from competitive points. The only
commodity shown on the sheets in question not manufac-
tured and shipped from here is raditors — and that item
was included to secure relative rate basis, viz: 6th class
in the interests of the Shirley Raditor manufacturers,
whose proprietors reside here and are members of this
bureau.

We desire to ask the Committee if on furniture from
Michigan points where the classification rating of 2nd
class is set aside and a commodity rate authorized on a
basis of 3rd class, while from Indianapolis the 2nd class
rates are charged, they do not regard that as of sufficient
importance to make a favorable recommendation for 3rd
class from Indianapolis to the same points of destination.
Also noticing the second illustration on furniture on basis
of 120 per cent, of 4th class from the Michigan districts,
while holding Indianapolis to classification basis on 2nd
class. Does not this appeal to the Committee as entitled
to adjustment in the interests and rights of Indianapolis
traffic? Xote the differences: Under the first illustra-
tion, Ray City to Chicago, 305 miles, 23V 2 c ; Detroit to
Chicago, 284 miles, 23i/?c; Toledo to Chicago, 244 miles.
23"i L .c; Grand Rapids, 178 miles, 2iy 2 c; Muskegon, 192
and Sparta, 193 miles to Chicago, 21Voc; while Indianap-
olis, 1S3 miles from Chicago, pays 25c.

Note the second illustration: Rates on furniture to
Chicago, from Ray City, Detroit and Toledo, 20c; from
Muskegon, Sparta and Grand Rapids, IT 1 •_.<•; while Indi-
anapolis pays 25c.



Our furniture manufacturers will no doubl be much
hn ,| to knew h"\\ the members of the Committee

nil on the pi oposition.

The poinl involved in the illustrations on Varnish,
Stoves, Radiators and Woodenware, the same as on chairs,


1 3 5 6 7 8

Online LibraryIndiana. Shipping InterestsAnswer of the shipping interests of Indiana and the Indianapolis Freight Bureau to the remarks of Mr. G. J. Grammer at conference held on November 19th, 1906, between the Indiana Railroad Commission and special committees representing the raliroads and commercial bodies of larger cities of the state → online text (page 3 of 8)