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you undertake for your friends. How is it polTible elfc,
you fliould fofoon procure for me Kircher*s Concordance?
•* Show me the man, and I will lliow you his caufe ;"
will hold now-a-days almoll: in all other cafes, as well
as that of or/joc-xuvVtv* ; and yet they mull: be all thought
lovers and promoters of truth. But my letter is too
long already, to enter into iO copious a fubjccl.

I am, &:c.



To the fi



ame



Si r. Gates, Nov. i6, jyoj.

IF I alk you, how you do ; it is bccaufe I am concerned
for your health. If I afk you, whether you have fent
me any books iince you went to town ; it is not that I
am in hafle for them, but to know how the carrier ufes
me. And if I alk, whether you are of Lincoln's-Inn ;
it is to know of what place you v^rite yourfcif, which
I defire you to tell m^e in your next, and what good
new books there are. 1 am, &c.



To the fame.

Si r. Gates, Nov. 17, 1703.

THE books I received from you ro-night, with the

kind letter accou.jwnying tlicm, far more vali:able than



• Mr. Locke had been informed that one of the objedions of the
WaHoun Divines, againit iVIr. Lc CKrc'a New Tedamcnt, was his tranf*
biing Kpso-Kor* iii Sr. Matthew (cliap. II. v. 2.) fg as to figuity the civil,
Wui aot religious, wuriliipof the \vilc nvn.

J the



Several Letters. 273

the books, give matter of enlarging myfelf this even-
ing. The common offices of fricndfhip, that I con-
ftantly receive from you, in a very obliging manner,
give me fcope enough, and afford me large matter of ac-
knowledgement. But when I think of you, I feel fome-
thing of nearer concernment that touches me ; and that
noble principle of the love of truth, which poflelTes you,
makes me almoft forget thofe other obligations, which I
fliould be very thankful for to another.

In good earned, fir, you cannot think what a comfort
it is to me to have found out fuch a man ; and not onl/
fo, but I have the fatisfadion that he is my friend.
This gives a gufto to all the good things you fay to me,
in your letter. For though I cannot attribute them to
myfelf, (for I know my own defecfls too well) yet I am
ready to perfuade myfelf you mean as you fay ; and to
confefs the truth to you, I almoft loathe to unde-
ceive you, fo much do I value your good opinion.

But to fet it upon the right ground, you mufl know
that I am a poor ignorant man, and, if I have any thing
to boaft of, it is that I fincerely love and feek truth,
with indifferency whom it pleafes or difpleafcs. I take
you to be of the fame fchool, and fo embrace you.
And if it pleafe God to afford me fo much life as to fee
you again, I fhall communicate to you fome of my
thoughts tending that way.

You need not make any apology for any book that is
not yet come. I thank you for thofe you have fent me ;
they are more I think, than I fliall ufe ; for the indif-
pofition of my health has beaten me almoft quite out
of the ufe of books ; and the growing uneafinefs of my
diffemper * makes me good for nothing. I am, &c.



Tb the fame.

Sir, Oates, January 24, 1703-4.

TILL your confidence in my friendfliip, and freedom
with me, can prefcrve you from thinking you have need



* An afthma.

Vol. IX. T w



27 f Several I^t It rs,

to make apologies for your fikiKC, whenever you omit
a poll or two, when in your kind way of reckoning, )ou
judge a letter to be due; you know me not fo well as 1
could w ilh ; nor am I fo little burthenfoPK to you as I
defire. I could be pleafetl to hear from you every day ;
becaufe the very t 'noughts of you, every day, atiord mc
plcafurc and fatisfaction. But 1 hcfeech you to believe,
that 1 meafure not your kindnefs by your opportunities
of writing; nor do fufpect that your friendlhip flattens,
whenever your pen lies a little IViil. The lincerity you
profefs, and 1 ain convinced of, has charms in it, againll
all the little phantoms of ceremony. If it be not fo,
that true friendlhip fets one free from a llrupulous ob-
fervance of all rhofe little circumllancvs, I fliall be able
to give but a very ill account of my felf to my friends ; to
vhom, when I have given polfellion of my heart, I aiu
lefs punctual in making o^ legs, and killing my hand,
than to other pco|)le, to whom that oul-lidc civility
is all that belongs.

I received the three books you fent me. That w hich
the author fent nic* defcrves my acknowledgement
more ways than one ; and I mull beg you to return it.
His demonlhations arc fo plain, that, if this were an
age that followed rcafon, 1 ihould not doubt but his
vould prevail. But to he rational is fo glorious a thing,
that two-legged creatures generally content themfelves
with the title; but will not debafe fo excellent a faculty,
about the conduct: of fo trivial a thing, as they make
themfelves.

There never was a man better fuitcd to your wiih.es
than I an\. You take a pleafure in being troubled with
my commilfirins ; and 1 have no other way of coimnerce
with you, but by fuch importunities. 1 can only fay,
that, were the tables changed, I lliould, being in your
pla'ce, have the lame fatisfaction ; and therelore confi-
dently make ufe of your kind offer. 1 therefore beg
the favour of you to get nic Mr. Le Clcrc's *' Harmony
•' of the Evangclifts** in englilli, bound very finely in



Rcafons againft rff^rainiog the j>rcfs." l.ond. 1704, in 410.

calf.



Several Letters. 275

calf, gilt, and lettered on the back, and ^\h on the
leaves. So alfo I would have Moliere's works (of the
befl edition you can get them) bound. Thcfe books
arc for ladies ; and therefore I would have them fine,
and the leaves ^ilt, as well as the back. Molicre of
the Paris edition, I think is the befl-, if it can be got in
London in quires. You fee the liberty I take. I Ihould
be glad you could find out fomcthing for me to do
for you here. I am perfectly, &c.



To the fi.



ame*



S I R, Gates, Feb. 7, 1703-4.

IT is with rcG^ret 1 confider you fo long in Eflex*
without enjoying you, any part of the time. Elfex.
mcthinks, (pardon the extravagancy, extraordinary paf -
fions and cafes excufe it) when you are to go into it,
fhould all be Gates ; and your journey be no whither,
but thither. But land, and tenements fay other things,
whilft we have carcafes that mud be clothed and fed ;
and books, you know, the fodder of our underllandings,
cannot be had without them. What think you ? arc
not thofe fpirits in a fine ftatc that need none of all
this luggage; that live without ploughing and fowing;
travel as eafy as we wifh ; and inform themfclvcs, not
by a tirefome rummaging in the miltakcs and jargon
of pretenders to knowledge, but by looking into things
themfelves ?

Sir, I forgot you had an eflate in the country, a li-
brary in town, friends every- where, amongil which you
are to while away, as pleafantly, I hope, as any one of
this our planet, a large number of years, (if my wilhcs
may prevail) yet to come; and am got, 1 know not
how, into remote vilions, that help us not in our pre-
fent {late, though they fliow us fomcthing of a better.
To return therefore to myfelf and you, 1 conclude, by
this time, you are got to town again, and then, in a lit-^
tie time, I ihall hear from you. 1 am, c^c,

T 2 'To



276 Several Letters,

To the fame,

S r F, Oatcs, Feb. 21, 1703-4,

I MUST ackno\\Icdii;c it as an cfTc6l of your zeal to
fcrvc inc, that von have fent me Lc Clerc's Harmony,
and Moliere's works, by the BHhop-Stortford Coach ;
and I return you my thanks as much as if it exactly an-
fwcrcd my purpofe. 1 ought not to think it firange,
that you in town, amidri: a hurry of hulinefi^, ll}0uld not
keep prccifely in mind my little affairs; when I hcre>
v'hcre I have nothin^j; to dillurb my thoughts, do Co
often forget. When I wrote to you to do me the favour
to get thefe books for me carefully bound, ! think 1
made it my requed: to you, I am furc I intended it, to
write word when they were done, and then I would
acquaint you how the) were to be difpofed of; for the
truth is, they were to be difpofed of in town. But
whether 1 only meant this, and faid nothing; or
you forgot it; the nuitter is not much. I expeCl to
receive the books to-morrow, and lliall do well enough
with them.

I Ihould not have taken notice of this to you at all, did
I not intend it for rji excufe for an ill-mannered, thing>
very neceflary in bufmcfs, which perhaps you will find
mc ufc with you for the future; which is, to repeat
the little circumflances of bufincfs which are apt to be
forgotten in every letter till the danger be over. This,
if you obfervc to do, will prevent many crofs accidents
in your alVairs ; I alfure it you upon experience.

I delire you to (lop your hand a little, and forbear
putting to the prefs the two difcourfes you mention*.
They arc very touchy fubjeds at this time ; and that
good man, who is the author, may, for aught I know,
be crippled by thofe, who will be lure to be olfended



* •* A difcourfc concerning the rcfurrc^ion o\ the fame body, with
'* two letters conccniiag the ncccnary imimtcriality of a created thinking
•• fuhftance." Thcfc pieces, written by Mr. Bold, were printed at Lon~
<ion 1705, in 8vo.

at



Several Letters. 277

at hiai, right or wrong. Remember what you fay, a
little lower in your letter, in the cafe of another friend
of your's, *' that in the way of rcafon they are not to
** be dealt with."

It will be a kindnefs to get a particular account of
thofe proceedings* J but therein mud be contained the
day, the names of thofe prefent, and the very words of
the order or refolution ; and to leirn, if you can, from
whence it had its rife. When thefc particulars arc
obtained, it will be fit to confider what ufe to make of
them. In the mean time I take what has been done,
as a recommendation of that book to the world, as you
do ; and I conclude, when you and I meet next, we
fhall be merry upon the fubjed:. For this is certain, that
becaufe fome men v\ ink, or turn away their heads, and
will not fee, others will not confent to have their eyes
put out. I am. Sec.



To the fame.

Sir, Oates, Feb. 24, 1703-4.

YOU know me not yet as you ought, if you do not
think I live with you with the fame confidence I do
with myfelf, and with the fame fincerity of affcdlion
too. This makes me talk to you with the fame free-
dom I think ; which though it has not all the cere-
mony of good breeding, yet it makes amends with
fomething more fubflantial, and is of better relilh in
the ftomach. Believe it, therefore, that you need not
trouble yourfelf with apologies for having fentthe books
hither. You have obliged me as much by it, as you
could by any thing of that nature, which I had defi-
rcd : neither need vou be concerned for the future. It



* It was propofed, at a meeting of the heads of the houfcs of the uni-
verfity of Oxford, to ccnfure and difcourage the reading of Mr. Locke's
«* Eflay concerning Human Underftanding ;" and, after various debates
among thcmfelves, it was concluded, that each licad of a houfc fliould
endeavour to prevent its being read in his college, without coming to any-
public cenfure»

T 3 15



j-S Several Letters.

Js convenient to make it a rule not to let one's friends
forget little circumnances, whereby fuch crofs purpofes
fonietinics happen; but when they do happen between
friends, they are to be made matter of mirth.

The gentleman that writ you the letter, which you
font to mc, is an extraordinary man. and the futell in the
>vorld to go on with that inquiry. Pray, let him, at any
rate, get the precife time, the perfons prcfent, and the mi-
nutes of the regilU'r taken of their proceedings ; and
^his without noife, or fceming concern to have them,
as much as may be; and I would beg you not to talk of
jthis matter, till we have got the whole matter of fact,
"which w ill be a pleafant Itory, and of good ufe.

I wifli the books, you mentioned*, were not gone to
the J refs, and that they might not be printed; for
"\vhcn they are printed, 1 am fure they will get abroad ;
and then it will be too late to wifli it had not been fo.
I lowever, if the fates w ill have it fo, and their printing
cnnnot be avoided ; yet, at lead, let care be taken to
conceal his name. I doubt not of his reafoning right,
and making good his points ; but what will that boot,
if he and his family fhogld be difturbcd, or difeafcd ?

I Iball, as you dcfire, fend Moliere, and Le Clerc,
back to you, by the firlt opportunity. 1 am, with
perfect Tmcerity and refpect, t<.c.



'J'o the fume.

Sir, Gates, 2% February, i^oi^-^.

I SAW the packet was cxadtly w ell made up, and I knew
^hc books in it were well bound; whereupon I let it
alone, and was likely to have fent it back to you unopened ;
but my good genius would not fulfer mc to lofe a let-
ter of yours in it, which 1 value more than all the books
It Accompanied. Smce my lait therefore to you, I opened
the packet, and therein found yours of the i6th inllant,
Ashich makes me love and Nalue you, if it were pof-

i* Mr. BoM's TRatifcj mcniioncJ in the p receding letter.

fible,



Several Letters. 279

fibJe, more than I did before; you having therein, in
Ihort, fo well defcribed, wherein the happincfs of a ra-
tional creature in this world confifts ; though there are
very few that make any other ufe of their half employed
and undervalued reafon, but to bandy againfl it. It is
T\ell, as you obfervc, that they agree as ill with one ano-
ther, as thev do with common fcnfe. For when, by the
influence of fome prevailing head, they all lean one
\v;iy ; truth \& fure to be born down, and there is no-
thing fo dangerous, as to make any inquiry after her;
and to own her, for her own flike, is a moft unpardon-
able crimiC.

You allc me, how I like the binding of Molierc, and
Le Clerc. You will wonder to hear me fay, not at all ;
but you mufl: take the other part of my anfwer, which
is, nor do I dillike it. It is probable, that this yet
doth not fatisfy you, after you have taken fuch cfpccial
care v. ith your binder, that they fliould be exaclly well
done. Know then, that upon moving the firfl: book,
having luckily efpied your letter, I only juft looked into
it to fee the Paris print of Moliere; and, without fo much
as taking it out of the paper it was wrapped up in, cafl
my eye upon the cover, which looked very fine, and
curiouily done, and fo put it up again, hading to your
letter. This was examining, more than enough, of
books whofe binding you had told me you had taken
care of; and more than enough, for a man who had your
letter in his hand unopened.

Prav fend me word what you think or hear of Dr. Pitt's
laft book*. For as for the firft of the other authors yoa
mcntiont, by what I have {{icn of him already, I can
eafily think his arguments not worth your reciting-
And as for the other, though he has parts, yet that is



* *' The Antuiotc; or the preservative of health and life, and the ref-
V torative of phvfic to its fmcerity and pcrfedion ; ^-c. Bv R. Pitt,
** M. D. Fellow and ccnfor of the college of phyficians. Sec,'* Lond.
1701, Svo. ■ • • /I

+ ♦* The grand ciTiy ; or a vindication of reafon and religion, agamft
<' the impoflurc of philofophy, &:c." Lond. i 704, in Svc.

T 4 not



2 80 Several Letters,

not all which T require in an author I am covetous of,
and expect to find fatisfac'tion in.

Pray, forget not to write to your friend in Oxford, to
the purpofc I mentioned in my lafl to you. I am, ^c.



To the fdvic.

Sir, Oates, 6 March, 1703-4.

WERE you of Oxcnford itfelf, bred under thofe
fharp heads, which were for damning my book, becaufe
of its difcouraging the flaple commodity of the place;
vhich in my time was called hog's-flicaring, (which is,
as I hear, given out for the caufe of tlicir decree) ; you
could not be a more fubtle difputant than you are. You
do every thing that I delire of you, with the utmoft
care and concern ; and becaufe I underfland and accept
it fo, you contend that you are the party obliged. This,
1 think, requires fomc of the moR refined logic to
make good ; and if you will have me believe it, you
muft forbid me too to read my own book, and oblige
me to take to my help more learned and fcholaftic notions.
But the mifchief is, I am too old to go to fch))ol again ;
and too redy now to fludy arts, however authorized, or
uhcrever taught, to impofe upon my own undcrftand-
ing. Let me therefore, if you pleafe, be fenlible of
your kindncfs; and I give you leave to pleafe )ourfelf,
Avith my interpreting them as I ought, as much as you
think fit. For it would be hard in me to deny you fo
fmall a fatisfadion, where I receive fo great and real ad^
vantage.

To convince you, that you arc not like to lofe what
you fo much value, and is all you can expect in our
commerce, I put into your hands a frclh opportunity
of doing fomelhing for me, wliich J Ihall have reafon to
take well. I have this tiay fent back the bundle of
books. I have taken what care 1 can to Iccure theni
from any harm, that might threaten them in the carri-
age. Tor I Ihould be txircmely vexed that books, fo
Curioully finillicd by )our care, fliould be in the leaft

injured^



Several Letters, 281

injured, or lofe any thing of their perfcd beauty, till
they came to the hands, for whom they arc defigncd.

You have you fee by your kind offer, drawn upon
yourfelf a farther trouble with them, which was defigned
for my coufm King. But he fettmg out for the circuit
to-morrow morning, I mull beg you, that may be my
excufe for taking this liberty with you. Molicre's works
are for the countefs of Peterborough, which I defire you
to prefent to her from me, with the cnciofed for her,
and my moft humble fervice. I am in truth, &c.



^0 the fame.

Sir, Oates, 13 March, 1703-4.

IF the difputers of this world were but half fo good
at doing as you, the mart of logic and fyllogifms would
no doubt be the only place for the young fry *' ad ca-
piendum ingenii cultum;'* (pardon, 1 befeech you,
this fcrap of latin, my thoughts were in a place that
authorifes it, and one cannot chop logic half fo well
in unlearned modern vulgar languages.) But the tra-
ders in fubtilty have not your way of recommending it,
by turning it into fubftantial folidity, whereby you pre-
vail fo much on me, that I can fcarce avoid being per-
fuaded by you, that when I fend you of a jaunt beyond
Piccadilly, you are the perfon obliged, and I ought to ex-
pedl thanks of you for it. Excufe me, I intreat you, if,
for decency's fake, I flop a little fliort of that; and let it
fatisfy you, that I believe, nay fuch is the power of your
logic, that I cannot help believing, that you fpare no
pains for your friends, and that you take a plcafure in doing
me kindnefs. All that remains for me to afk of you, is
to do me this right in your turn, to believe I am not
infenfible of your favours, and know how to value fuch
ji friend.

Though you faw not my lady, when you delivered
Moliere and my letter at her houfe ; yet had you no
rnelTage from her? Or did you not go \xi:, or ftay, when
you heard llie vvas indifpofed ?
• ■ Mr.



X%2 Several L^tter^.

Mr. Lc Clcrc's Harmony is tor Mr. Secretary John-
son's lady. The book lent to his h)clL(ings, with a note
to inform him, that it is for his hidy from mc, \\\\\ do
the bufinefs ; fo that, for this errand, I am glad your
iervant is fufhcient without fending you ; for you mull
give mc leave fometimes on fuch occalions to be a little
ilingy, and fparing of my favours.

I perceive, by the enclofed you did mc the favour to
fend mc, that thofe worthy heads are not yet grown up
to pcrfcvfl infallibility. I am forry, however, that thcir
nighty thoughts wanted utterance. Flowevcr, 1 would
■very gladly know the true matter of tact, and what was
really propofed, refolved, or done ; this, if polllble, I
nould be alfured of, that 1 might not be miftaken ia
what gratitude I ought to have.

You baulked my having the bilhpp of St. Afaph's* fer-
mon, by telling my coufin King, that I care not for fer-
irions ; and, at the fame time, you fend my lady plays.
This has raifed a difputc between her ladyihip and me,
which of us two it is, you think bell of. Mcthinks you
are of opinion, that my lady is well enough fatished
uith the unreformed ftage ; but that I fliould be glad,
that fome things were reformed in the pulpit itfclf. The
refult is, that my lady thinks it nccefiary for you to
come, and appeafe thefe broils ) ou have raifed in the
family. I am, ixc.



^0 the fame.

Sir, Oarcs, 21 March, 1703-4.

GI\'K me leave to tell you, iir, that you are millakeii
in me. 1 am not a young lady, a beauty, and a fortune.
And unlefs you tho;:ght me all this, and ileiigned your
addrelTcs to me ; how is it polfible you Ihould be afraid
you acquitted not yourfelf well in my commillion be-
yond Piccadilly? Your waiting in the p.irlour a quarter
of an hour was more thaii any realbnable man could de-



• V)i^ Gcorijc Huopcr,

mand



several Letters, 2S?

rnand of you; and if cither of us ought to be troubled
in the cafe, it is I, bccaufe you did fo much ; and not
you, bccaufe you did fo little. But the reality of your
fricndfliip has fo blended our concerns into one, that
you will not permit me to obfcrve, w hether I do, or re-
ceive the favour, in what, pallcs between us; and I am
almofl: perfuaded by you to believe, that fitting here by
the fire I trudge up and down for you in London. Give
me leave however to thank you, as if you had delivered
Mr. Lc Clerc's Harmony to Mr. Secretary Johnilon for
me, and fent me the two bibles, which I received.

As for the rummaging over Mr. Norris's late book *,
T will be fvvorn, it is not I have done that ; for however
I may be miflaken in what palTes without me, I am
infallible in what paffcs in my own mind; and I am
fure, the ideas that are put together in your letter out
of hin), were never fo in my thoughts, till I fiw them
.there. What did I fay, '' put ideas together?'* I afk;
your pardon, it is '* put words together without
•' ideas ;" juft as I fliould fufpecl: I did, if I fliould fay
you difparagcd a very good ftraight ruler I had, if you
told me it would not enable me to write fenfe, though it
were very good and ufeful, to fhow me whether I writ
ftraight or no.

Men of Mr. Norris's way feem to me to decree, rather
than to argue. They, againlt all evidence of fenfe and
reafon, decree brutes to be machines, only becaufe their
hypothefis requires it; and then with a like authority,
fuppofe, as you rightly obferve, what they fliould prove ;
viz. that whatfoever thinks, is immaterial. Cogitation,
fays Mr. Norris, '' is more excellent than motion, or
'' vegetation; and therefore muft belong to another
*' fubftance than that of matter, in the idea whereof,
*' motion and vegetation are contained." This latter
part, I think, would be hard for him to prove, viz.



* *' An elTay towards the theory of the ideal or intelligihie world. Bc-
" ing the relative part of it. Wherein the intelligible world is confidcred,
^* yvith relation to human underilanding;. Wlirreof fome account
«« is here attempted, and propofed. Part ll. By John Norris, redor of
V £emerton, near Sarum." Lond. 1704, in ^\q.

'' that



:t84 Several Lcltn's.

*' that motion and vegetation arc contained in the idea
*' of the fubflance of matter." But to let that pafs at
prcfent; I alk, whether if this way of arguing be good,
It will not turn upon him thus: '* If the idea of a fpirit
•* does not comprehend motion and vegetation; then they
** mu(t belong to another fublTancc than a fpirit ;
*' and therefore arc more excellent than cogitation, or
" the aflccitions of a fpirit.'* For if its greater excel-
lency proves any mode or affedion to " belong to an-
'• other fubllancc;" will not its '* belonging to another
** fubftance,*' by the fame rule, prove it to be more
excellent ? But this is only to deal with thcfe men of
logic and fubtilty, in their own way, ^^ ho ufe the
term " excellent," to prove a material qucfrion by,
"without having, as you remark, a clear and determined
idea of what they mean by more or lefs excellent.

But not to wafl:e your time, in playing with the argu-
ments of men, that examine not flridly the meaning
of the words they ufe; I will fliow you the fallacy
'whereby they impofc on thcmfelves ; for fuch talkers
commonly cozen thcmfelves, as well as others. Cogi-
tation, fay thev, **is not comprehended in the idea of ex-
" tenfion and folidity ;" for that is it which they mean,
when they fay, the ** idea of matter;" from whence



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