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2 his wife./

3 Raphaell Bishoppe

4 Andrew Purkis

5 et vxor

6 William Birchall now in Yarmouth Goale. /

7 Thomas Caine in the same Goale./

8 et vxor

9 Samuell Butler 19 Alice Witherell

10 Edmond Cannon 20 Margarett Neave

11 et vxor 21 Effa Wiseman

12 Marie Ladd widdow 22 Alice Smith

13 loane Balles 23 Dyonis Springall

14 lane Blogg 24 Valentine Porte

15 lane Bridgwell 25 vxor Boberti Baffam

16 Ellen Tilles 26 vxor Thomae Parker

17 Anne Trindle 27 Ruth Burton

18 Widdow March 28 Ellen Smith

Marie Ennis and Adam Goodwins of Castor tw[o]
miles distant from Yarmouth who sometimes fre-
qu[ent ?] them. /

1 S. P., Dom., Charles L, Vol. 171 (9).



810 Earlji English Dissenters

A true relation of the estates and Condicons \sic\ of
theise people./

William Vring a poore Mariner now in prison lives on the

bjiskett. /

R-iphaell Bishopp a Shoomaker not worth 5.'''"'<'*

Andrew Purkis sometime a brewer not worth 20.'"^*"

William Birchall a poore dyer being now in prison liv[es ?] cm

the baskett. /

Thomas Caine [?] now in prison lives on the basquett. /

Samuell Butler in shew the Ablest of them all a grocer faif r ?]

indebted and one that dealeth altogether vpon Creditt his

estate vncerten but valued at lOO'""'*" at the most./

Edmond Cannon a Compasse maker not worth x."^*"

Marie Ladd a poore widdow not able to satisfie her husband[e9 ?]

debtes

loane Balls the wife of Richard Balles Blockmaker a poore

man./

lane Blogg the wife of Edward Blogg Sailor poore.

Ellen Tilles the wife of lohn Tilles a poore man

Effa Wiseman the wife of Robert wiseman Tailor

lane Bridgwell poore, Widdow march poore, Anne Trindle

poore, Alice witherell poore, Margarett Neve poore Alice Smith

poore Dyones Springell poore, Valentine Port a poore labourer,

Ruth Burton, poore ;

vxor Roberti Baffam sailor poore ; Ellen Smith poore

vxor Thomse Parker a poore loyner. /



XX



REPORTS RELATING TO THE APPEARANCE OF CERTAIN
SEPARATISTS BEFORE THE COURT OF HIGH COM-
MISSION BETWEEN APRIL 19 AND JUNE 21, 1632

[Under the date April 19, 1632.]'

Keepers of Conventicles would not pay their Fees to be Fees by Con-
discharged after their answere, it was said therefore, they have
not made their answere, & they were committed for not answering,
although they had, but had not paied their Fees.



In the Court of high Commission
3 Maij. 1632.



This day were brought to y® Court out of prison divers persons Conventiclers.
(and some of them appeared by bond) which, were taken on

Sunday last at a Conventicle mett at y^ house of [ ]

Barnett a brewers Clarke dwellinge in y* precint of Black
Fryars. By name lohn Latroppc their Minister Humphrey

Bernard [Barnett], Henry Dod, Samuell Eaton [ ] Granger

Sara lones, Sara lacob, Pennina Howse, Sara Barbon, Susan
Wilson : and divers other [sic] there were which appeared not
this day. M"". Latropp y® Minister did not appeare at y^ first,
but kept himself out of y® way a while, therefore the man of

* From Rawl, MS. A. 128, in the Bodleian Library. As has been said
in Vol. I., p. 322, note, these reports were published in full by S. R. Gardiner
in hi.^ " Reports of Cases in the Courts of Star Chamber and High Com-
mission", Camden Society, 1886, but the portions required ought also for
convenience to be found here.



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the howse wherein they were taken w.os first called : who was
iiskod when he wtis at his parish Church ? He answered that
he was then at his parish Church when they were in his house,
and that he vscth to goe to church, but his wife will not, then
said the ArchBishop of York, will yo" suffer that in your wife ?
Then said the Kinges Advocate these persons were assembled
on Sunday last at this mans house in black Fryars & there
vnlawfullie held a Conventicle, for w/a'ch there are Articles
exhibited in this Court against them, I pray that they may be
put to answere vppon their oathes to the Articles, & that they
sett forth what exercises they vsed, & what were the wordes
spoken by them. And as for yo" m^ Dod (quoth y* Advocate)
yo" might well haue forborne seing yo" haue been warned
heertofore, & passed by vpon promise of amendment : good m'
Advocate, spare that, saith Dod : He was asked whether he
vseth to come to his parish Church : He saith he hath come
to his parish Church as often as he could & vseth to come
thither, but he endeavoureth to heare the most powerfull
Ministery. and therefore said y® Bishop of London yo" heare
m"" Latroppe, what ordination hath he ? He is a Minister saith
m"" Dod. did yo" not heare him preach & pray ? [?] saith y®
Bw/iop. nay yo" your self & the rest take vpon yo" to preach
& to be Ministers, Noe saith m' Dod, London, yes, yo" doe,
and yo" were heard preach & pray. Dod, I shalbe readie in
this pa7*ticuler to confesse my fault, if I am convinced to be in
any. Then two of them were put to their oath, but they desired
to be excused for this tyme, & that they might have some time
to consider & be informed of the oath.

Then said the ArchBishop of Canterbury, yo" shew yojir
selves most vnthankfull to God, to y® King & to y* Church of
England that when ([?]God be praysed) through his Maiesties
care & ours yo" have preaching in every Church, & men haue
liberty to ioyne in prayer & participate of y® Sacramentes, &
haue Catechizinges & all to enlighten yo", & which may serue
yo" in the way of Salvation ; yo" in an vnthankfull manner cast
of [sic] all this yoake, & in private vnlawfullie assemble yowr
selues togeather, making rentes & divisions in the Church : If
anie thing be amisse, let it be knowen, if any thing be not



Separatists in the Court of High Commission 313

agreeable to the word of God, we shalbe as readie to redresse it
as yo", but whereas it is nothing but your owne imaginations,
& yo" are vnlearned men that seeke to make vp a religion of
yonv owne heades ! I doubt noe perswasion will serue the
tume. We must take this course, yo" are called heere. let
them stand vpon their bondes, and let vs see what they will
answere, it may be they will answere what may please vs.
London. It is tyme to take notice of these, nay this is not the
4'''' parte of them about this Cittie, yo" see these came of sett
purpose they mett not by chance ; they are desperatlie hereticall :
they are all of different places, one of Essex, S'^ Austins, S'' Martins
le grand, Buttolphs Algate, Thisleworth, S^ Saviours : let these
be imprisonned. Let me make a motion. There be Fewer of
the ablest men of them, let these 4 answere & be proceeded
against, & the while if the rest come in, they shalbe received,
but if they will not, I know noe reason why 4 or 5 should [not?]
answere for all.



[Under the date May 3, 1632.]

Then came in m"" Latropp, who is asked what authority he Latroppe,
had to preach, & keepe this Conventicle ? and saith the Bishop
of London, how manie woemen sate crosse legged vpon y^ bedd,
whilest yo" sate on one side & preached & prayed most de-
voutlie ? Latroppe, I keepe noe such evill companie, they were
not such woemen. London, are yo" a Minister ? ArchBishop
of Canterbury, are yo" a Minister ? Bishop of S^ Davides, were
not yo" Doctor King the Bishop of Londons Sizer in Oxford ?
I take it yo" were; and yo" shew your thankfullnes by this.
He answered that he was a Minister, London, how, & by whom,
qualified ? where are your Orders ? Latropp. I am a Minister
of the gospell of Christ, and y*" Lord hath qualifyed me. Will
yo" lay your hand on the booke, & take your oath, saith y^
Court ? He refuseth the oath.

Samuell Eaton and two women & a maid appeared, who were Samuell
demaunded why they were assembled in that Conventicle when ♦

others were at church ? Eaton, we were not assembled in con-
tempt of the Magistrate. London. Noe ? it was in contempt



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of y® church of Enghmd. Eaton, it was in conscience to God
(may it please this honorable Ct)urt) and we were kept from
Church, for we were confyned in y® house together by those
that besett y" house, els divers would haue gone to Church and
manie came in after the sermons were done. London, these
were first discovered at Lambeth & then at other places & now
tiiken heere, they haue in their uu-etinges bookes printed against
y" Church of England. ArchBishop of Canterbury. Where were
yu" in the mominge before yo" came hither to this house ? We
were in our owne families. Canterbury, what did yo" ? we read
y" Scriptures and catechized our families (saieth Eaton) : and
maie it please this this [sic] hono7-able Court to heare vs speake
the truth, we will shew yo" what was donne, and (free vs of y"
contempt of Authority) wee did nothing but what yo" will allow
vs to doe. London, who can free yo"? these are dangerous men,
they are a scattered companie sowen in all the Citty) [sic], and
about S^ Michaell of y*" Querne, S' Austins, Ould lury, Redritfe,
& other remoter places. Hould them y*' booke Eaton. I dare
not sweare, nor take this oath, though I will not refuse it, I will
consider of it. Sir Henry Martin, Heare, heare, yo" shall sweare
but to answere what yo" know, and so far as yo" are bound by
law : yo" shall haue time to consider of it, and haue it read over
& over till yo" can say it without booke if yo" will, when yo"
haue first taken yoj^r oath that yo" will make a true answere.
Eaton. I dare not, I know not what I shall sweare to. Kinges
Advocate. It is to giue a true answere to articles put into y"
Court against yo", or that shalbe put in touching this con-
venticle of yours, and divers yoiiv hereticall tenentes and what
wordes, and exercises yo" vsed, and things of this nature.
Eaton I dare not,
Saralonea. Arch Bishop of Canterbury. What say yo" woman ? S. lones.
I dare not worship God in vaine, but saith the Bishop of London,
will yo" not sweare and take an oath when yo" are called to it
by the Magistrate ? S. lones. yes, I will answere vpon my
oath to end a controversy before a lawfull Magistrate. Earle
of Dorsett. what doest thou thinke woman of these grave
Fathers of the church, that these heere be not lawfull Magis-
trates ? I would doe any thing that is according to Gods word.



Separatists in the Court of High Commission 315

ArchBwAop of Yorke. would yo" ? then yo" must take yowr oath
now yo" are required by yowr govemowrs. yo" must sweare in
truth, in iudgement in righteousnes. S. lones. yes, and they
that walke in righteousnes shall haue peace, but I dare not
forsweare my selfe.

Canterbury. Come what say yo" ? Pen. I dare not sweare this Pennina
oath till I am better informed of it, for w/w'ch I desire tyme: ^ nmide.
Sir Henry Martin. Must yo" not be readie to giue an answere
of yom* faith ? Pen. yes, I will giue an answere of my Faith if
I be demaunded, but not willinglie forsweare my selfe. / .

Kinges Advocate, what will yo" take youv oath good woman? Sara Bar-
S. Barbone. I dare not sweare, I doe not vnderstand it. I will ""^'
tell the truth without swearing. ArchBts/iop of Canterbwy.
Take them away. Soe they were all comwiitted to y'' New
prison. And it was appointed, that at y^ next Court, being
a fortnight after this, because of Ascention day they should be
brought againe to the Consistorie at Paules, because of trouble
& danger in bringinge soe manie prisoner's as there were over
the water to Lambeth. /

In the Court of high Commission at
y^ Consistory in Paules 8 May 1632.

This day all those that were taken in y^ Black-Fryars were Con-

vfiiiticlcrs

brought to y® Court vnder y® Custodie of y® Keeper of the New

prison. The Kinges Advocate shewed that they were taken at

a private Conventicle and prayed that they may take their

oathes to answere y® articles w^tch are putt in against them.

First Sara Jones was asked, of what parish she was ? She said Sara lones.

she dwelleth at Lambeth. London. Doe yo" come to y® church ?

S. Tones. None accuseth me to y^ contrary. London, where

were yo" vpon Sunday was sennight ? S. Jones, when J haue

done evill & my accuser come, I will answere. Kinges Advocate.

I doe accuse yo", take youv oath & yo" shall knowe your accu-

saci'on. S. Jones. J am afraid to take Gods [?] name in vaine,

I knowe noe other worship then God hath appointed. London.

This yo" are Comwiaunded to doe of God who saieth yo" must

obey your Superiowrs. S. Jones. That w^ich is of God is



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according to Gods[?] word and y*^ Lord will not hold him guilt-
lesse y' takoth his name in vaine.

S. lacob was called to y" booke but she refused alsoe;[?]
Then was called Marke Lucar : who was asked of what parish
he wjis & when he was at Church ? M. Lucar. I am yet to
chuse of what parish to be. [?] and I doe not remember y® day
of y" moneth when I was at Church. London. He doth not
remember I dare say y*" day of y'' moneth nor y*^ moneth of the
yeare when he was at Church, but he dwelleth in S*^ Austins
parish : offer him y^ booke. M. Lucar. If I may knowe a law
& ground for takeing this oath, I will take it, but I desire to
know my articles before I take my oath. ArchBishop of Yorke,
whether doe yo" knowe or noe that y® King hath power to take
an account of your proceedinges ? London, att their perrills.
aske[?] the next.

lohn Ireland was asked where & when he was at Church.
He saith at Mary Maudlins Church in Surrey, And that he was
at morninge Church within this halfe yeare. but being asked y*
booke. refused to sweare.

Then were called 4 others. Toby Talbot. Wilh'am Pickering.
Mabell Milbourne. Wilh'am Attwood, & were put to their
oathes. and first Talbot saieth in his excuse that he knoweth
not y^ articles what they are, and before he would take his
oath he would know his accuser. Sir Henry Martin. The Law-
is, that those y'' are taken in these Conventicles & remaine
obstinate, that they shalbe made to abiure y® Kingdome, and
if they returne, or obey not, it is felony therefore freindes take
heed to youv selves, and know y*^ yo" have more favour then yee
deserve. Pickering. I trust I haue done nothing against y^
law, and for this oath, I doe not know what belongs to it. and
he refuseth to take it. Attwood saith, he doth not know what
y® Booke is. M. Milbourne being asked whether she would
take her oath, she said that she would not.

London, speake to Dod. Latroppe. & y** man of y® house.
Heniy Dod yo" are y*' obstinate & perverse ringleaders of these
folkes : you had a faire admonition y'' last Court day. and
yo" haue this day assigned yo" to answere vpon yowr oath.
Dod. I hope we are not soe impious, we stand for y* truth : for



Separatists in the Court of High Commission 317

takeing y® oath I craue your patience, I am not resolved vpon
it. Brewers Clarke. I was at y® Church, but for takeing y® Bamet.
oath I desire to be resolved'. London. M'^ Latroppe. Hath the
Lord qualifyed yo", what authority, what Orders haue yo" ! the
Lord hath qualifyed you, is that a sufficient answere ? yo" must
giue a better answere before yo" & I part. Latropp. I doe not Latropp.
know that I haue done any thing w/it'ch might cause me iustly
to be brought before y® iudgraent seat of man : and for this oath
I doe not know the nature of it. Kinges Advocate, the manner
of y® oath is, that yo" shall answere to that yo" are accused of,
for Schisme. York. & London, if he will not take his oath,
away wtth him. Latropp I desire that other passage may be
remembred, I dare not take this oath, wherefore the Court
ordered, that they should be kept in straight custodie especiallie
Latropp. for y® Bishop of London said he had more to answere
then he knew of.

Samuell Eaton being demaunded whether he would take 1*™^®^
the oath. He answered, I doe not refuse it, though I doe not
take it : it is not out of obstinacie, but as I shall answere it at
y® last day I am not satisfyed whether I may take it.

Samuell Howe (saith y*" Kings Advocate) yo" are required Samuel
by yo^^r oath to answere to y^ articles. Howe. I have served
the King both by sea & by land^ and I had been at sea if this
restraint had not been made vpon me : my conversacton I thank
God none can taxe. Register, will yo" take yowr oath ? How.
I am a yong man, & doe not know what this oath is: Kinges
Advocate. The King desires your service in obeying his lawes.

Then P. Howes was called, and required to take her oath, hq""'" ^
but she refused. London. Will yo" trust m"" Latropp & beleive
him rather then y® Church of England. Pennina. I referre my
self to the word of God, whether I maie take this oath or noe. perne.
Then were called loane Feme & Elizabeth Denne : who refused Elizabeth,
to sweare till they were informed, and one of them said she

' This answer would seem to suggest that Humphrey Barnett, though
not a strict separatist, was after all probably a member of the congregation
at this time. This view is contrary to a statement made in Vol. i., page 321.

2 How this statement agrees with the well-known fact that Samuel
How, the separatist, was a cobbler, has not yet been made very clear.



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Early English Bisse^iters



Elizabeth
Sargeant.

lohnEgge.

Henry

Parker.



lohn

wood-

wyne,

lohn

Melborne.
Elizabeth
Melborne.



Thomas
Arundell.

Willmin
Granger.



Robrrt
Reitrnold<?s.



could not read a letter in y^ booke : the Kinges Advocate saith
their oath was y*" they should answere trulie as farre as they
knew to the Articles.

Elizabeth Sargeant saith she must not sweare, but when
she is before a Magistrate. Why now saith the BisAop of
London, yo'^ are called before y® Magistrate, are yo" not ? lohn
Egge, will yo" take your oath ? He refuseth. Henry Parker
will yo" take your oath to answere y® articles ? H. P. I doe
not deny the oath though I dare not take it, till I shall know
what I shall sweare. lohn woodwyne, He being tendered y®
booke, said, I desire to know what I shall sweare to, & what is
the end of [t]his oath before he will sweare. lohn Melborne.
I am not well perswaded of this oath, yet I will not deny it.
Elizabeth Melborne. I doe not know any such thing as a
Conventicle, we did meete to pray & talke of y'^ word of God,
which, is according to the law of the land. York. God wilbe
served publiquely not in yowr private house. Thomas Arundell
of S*' Olaves parish refuseth to take the oath for the present,
till he knew y® Articles that he might informe himself. Wilk'am
Granger of S'^ Margarettes in Westminster. He being called,
the Bishop of London spake vnto him saying. Granger, yo"
looke like a man of fashion will yo" take yowr oath to answere
to y^ articles according to your knowledg, and as farre as yo"
are bound by law ? Granger, I desire to have some tyme to
consider of it. London. I would not have any of the standers
by thinke that yo" or any of these have not had tyme to con-
sider of this, yo" rent & teare the Church & will not submitt
your self to y*^ tryall of law. yo" must know, the Justice of this
Court is lymited, & yo** may be driven to abiure the Realme
for your offence. Then Robert Reignoldes of Thistleworth was
tendered the oath. He desired to speak 2 or 3 wordes : If I
have done any thing against the Law, lett me be accused by
the Course of the law : if I thought this oath might be taken
wtth a good Conscience, I would take it; and I doe for the
present desire yo'^, though yo" doe not pitty me yet to pitty
my poore wife & smale Children. York. Pitty your wife &
Children yowr self, and lay your obstinacy to your conscience. /



Separatists in the Court of High Commission 319

Abigail Delamar a Frenchmans wife, was brought from the Abigal
New prison to y^ Court, & required to take y^ oath. She
demanded whether it were the oath of Alleageance ; the Kinges
Advocate said, it was to answere the truth to y® Articles in
Court against her as farre as she knew & was bound by law.
She said. I neither dare nor will take this oath till I am in-
formed of it, that I may with a good conscience. London. Her
husband is y® Queenes servant, & a stiffe Romane Catholique,
and she a deepe Familist & Brownist, & one of the Con-
venticlers taken at BlackFryars, the last weeke ther was a
generall fast held in y^ prison, that they might be delivered
out of prison, I gaue order that all that came to them that day

should be stayed, This woman came, Canterbury. I see yo"

are an obstinate woman, as all the rest of yowr Companie are.
Ab Delamar. yo" persecute vs without a cause yo** haue sent
26 of vs to y^ prison, but since we were imprisoned what course
haue yo** taken to informe vs ? Which of yo" haue sent anie
man to vs or taken any paines to informe vs ? London. There
was a day sett for them to answere at y® Consistorye in Paules :
but they haue y'^ last Sunday petictoned his Maiestie, shewing
that it is not out of obstinacie, but they decline y^ Eccle-
siastical! lurisdiccon [sic] altogether. Woman, take your oath.
Ab. Delamar. Noe this oath is condempned by y" law of the
land, & I refuse it as an accursed oath, & appcale to y® Kinge.
I heard that y*^ Saboth day after this Court she deliv[er]ed
a pcticion to the King in the name of all the rest, shewing
that they refused not this oath obstinately, but y'' they were
afraid, it was against y° Subiectes iust libertie, to be compelled
to take this oath and shewed that they would willinglie be
tryed by his Maieities lawcs, or by his Maiestie or any of his
Lordes & Nobles.

Amy Holland did not appeare because of sickncs, as it was Holland,
given in answere for her



Grafton an vpholster [sic] one of y^ BlackFryers Companie Grafton,
is ordered to giue bond for his apparance [sic] at y^ next Court.

Sara Barbone being bound to appeare is escaped, & hideth Br.rbon.
her selfe, her bond to be certefyed in y* Exchequer.



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Wilson.



Escape of
some of
y* Con-
venticle"
out of
prison.



Phillis Wilson, being one of them that were taken at ^lack-
Fryers was tendered y*^ oath, but she refused saying, she durst
not sweare vnadvisedly. Kinges Advocate. It is before y®
Magistrate by authority of an act of parliament.

London. 7. or 8. of those that were best able to beare it
are let out of prison, & therefore for my part I will consent
that it be ordered that noe more be sent to y^ new prison, till
these be brought againe. The keeper prayed their lorc^s^tpps
pardon, & promised to endeavour to finde them againe: London:
Let these women therefore for y® honour of y^ Court be sent to
other prisons, & the rest to be removed some to one prison &
some to an other.



[Under the date June 14, 1632.]



Con-
venticlers.



Rawlins, Harvy, Arthur Goslin, Rowland, Robert Bye, lohn
Smith, & others were taken at a Conventicle in a wood neare
Newington in Surrey vpon the Saboth day last, and being now
brought to the Court they were required to take their oathes
to answere y® Articles put in against them. Two of them
answeare they will not sweare at this time : and as they were
goinge out, Harvy put on his hatt, w/wch was presentlie taken
offe and he was compla5Tied on, & being called back to answere
it, he saith, he was shiftinge [?] away, & putt on his hatt.
Another saith that a lawfull Magistrate had examined them
alreadie, and therefore he will not sweare to be heere examined.

London, your examinations taken before Sir [ ] he sent

to me. there is nothing in it but that yo" mett togeather to
conferre vpon y® word of God as farre as yo" vnderstood the
same, & to pray, w^i'ch yo" might answere heere : but yo" tell
this Court that it is not a lawfull power & authority : And of
the same minde are those that were taken att BlackFryers :
for they petictoned y® King to be tryed by his ludges, by his
Lordes, declyning the Ecclesiasticall lurisdiccion : this they
tendred y^ last Sunday : This your obstinacie will cause yo" to
be proceeded against at the common law, & be made abiure the



Separatists in the Court of High Commission 321

Kingdome, & if yo" retume to be hanged. Kinges Advocate
speaketh to another of them, yo" are required to take yowr oath
to answere the Articles put in against yo". Prisoner. I cannot
sweare, because I know them not in certeinty, London. Let
these (may it please yoi^r grace) be sent two and two to other
prisons, & none to the new prison, because the keeper hath lett



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