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and a quarter,... and the cause of his commitment, was (as he
saieth) for not Comwiinge to Churche. /

Item, he Confesseth that before he was Committed to prison,
he was in an assemblie in a garden howse by Bedlein, wher
lames Forrester expounded, before ther Churche was setled,
and was perswaded to his opinions by one Coppye. /

The Reexaminacion of Robert Aburne [Abraham]

taken the thirde day of Aprell. 1593.

before Doctor Goodman Deane of Westminster

m" Townshend m' Dale, m"" Barne, and

m' yonge. /^

1 Harl. MS. 6848, fol. 51 recto.
"^ Ibid., fol. 41 recto and verso.

B. II.

60 Early English Dissenters

He saieth he is by trade a lether dresser and servawnt to one
m' Rooks of South warke, he saieth he hath not bene at his
parishe Churche this yere and a halfe,

he saieth the first that ewer brought him into this Congregacton
was one Wilham Howton deceased, whoe pe^'swaded him to
refraine his [sic] parishe Churche, and brought him ac-
quainted [?] with the rest of the bretheren of that Congregacion,
beynge at bridewell, and thether he went to see ther orders,
beynge ther at at [sic] that tyme Studley, with others [sic]
prisoners ther, wher he harde at that tyme, one Stanhopp
preache, amongest them in the prison openlye, and then he this
exawiinant, beynge amongest them, was receaved and admytted
into ther societie and congregacion, without eyther cxaminacion,
or further enquirie of his conversation. /

he saieth that sithens he hath met with the said Congregacion
diuers tymes, as well privately in howses, as openlye in feilds
and woods, some tymes to the number of a hundreth, sometymes
Ix. [60j at the least, once they mett about halfe a yeare sithence
at Roger Rippons in Southwarke, two other tymes at Algate
one [i.e., on] the left hand he knoweth not at whose howse, and
that m"" lohnson was ther pastor when they wear in Southwarke,
and after at an other howse at Smythfeild almost halfe a yere
sithens but knowes not whose howse it was, and ther they
Receaved the Com^/iunion, lohnson ministringe vnto them, and
mett once in S*^ Nicholas Lane, the said lohnson beinge Pastor,
& Greenewood ther teacher. /

They mett diuers tymes in the feild neere Detford, And about
the woodsides neere Islington, and ther have hard yonge
[George] lohnson preache, sithence his brother the elder
lohnson, was in troble. /

He saieth that at ther meetinge in S*^ Nicholas Lane, when
m' Yonge did take them ther, the[y] did then make Choyse of
their Doctor Teacher Deacons and elders, and that lohnson
thelder then was chosen Pastor, Grenewood teacher, Studley
and knyfton Elders, Lee and Bowman Deacons. /
He saieth that their Doctor and Pastor weare mayntained by
Contribucion from amongest them euery one as his abilitie
was, by Weekelie colleccion, / and that he for his parte hath

Barrowist Depositions 61

yealded his contribucion this yere and this halfe, / and that the
collection beynge gathered was deliuered to the Deacons to be
distributed amongest those of that congregacion, vfhioh they
[the] said Deacons did thinke good, and most to stand in
neede. /

He saieth that they did vse to excommunicate amongst them,
and that one Robert Stokes, and one George Collier, and one or
twoe more whose names he Remembreth not, wear excom-
municated, for that they discented from them in opinion but in
what poynte he Remembreth not, and that the said lohnson
thelder did denounce thexcommunicacton against them, and
concernynge ther manner of proceadinges to excommunicaci'on
he saieth, that they the saide Stokes and the Rest beynge
privatelye admonished of their pretended errors, and not
conforminge them selves, and by Witnes produced to their
congregacton, then the said lohnson, with the Consent of the
whole CongregacVon, did denounce the excommunicacion, and
that sithence they weare excomunicated wAich was a halfe
yere and somewhat more sithence, they wear not admitted into
their Churche /, And beynge demaunded whether he could be
contented to forsake the said congregacion, and repaiere to his
parishe Churche, or not, he saieth he knoweth not, nor can see
any cause whye he should soe refraine the said congregation. /

Concordat cu7?i Original

[April 4, 1593.]

George Kniveton [Knifton] of Newgate market
potecary of the age of xxiiij"'' yeres

First that he hath bene in prison this fortnight... taken in the

company of Penry and others in the howse of one Lewes in

Stepney. /

Item he confesseth that he is one of the elders of thetr con-


Item he saythe he hath had conference with M"" [Robert ?]
1 HarL MS. 6848, fol. 76 verso.


62 Early English Dissenters

Browne whoe perswaded him not to recive the Communyon
and synce hath had conference with Barrowe with Greenewood
and wj'th Penry and was made Elder about half a yero since
and that he misliketh Cart\vTyghts plan [?] of Church gov-
ennent. /

Item he sayeth he hath bene at thassemblies most comonly
vppon euery sonday and sometyme vppon the weeke dayes
sometymes in S'^ Nicholas Lane somtymes at Nicholas Lees
and somtymes at m' Bilsons by Chrichurch sometymes at the
woodes by Islington and Detford and at lohn Barnes his his [sic]
howse by S'' barthelmewes. /

4. Aprilis. 1593. William Mason of Wappinge Shipwright

of the age of xxmj. yeres, or theiraboute*,.

First, that he hath bene in prison in the Counter in the
Poultrye,...beinge taken in the wood./

Item, that he was never at Churche since Christmas last, and
soe longe he hath held his opinions, perswaded therto by
Edward Chandler a Shipwright, and went to the woodde, with
Roger Rippon./and hathe bene at ther assemblies about xij.
tymes. viz. at Nicholas lane, at Roger Rippons howse, at
Detford woodde, and at the woods by Islington, when he was
taken, and at Daniell Buckes howse, a scrivenowr by Algate.
and hath seene diuerse children Baptised, and gave to the
Deacons, vjd. a weeke when he had money.

Concordat cum Original


[April 4, 1593.]

Henrye Withers of Detford Strande,
Shipwright, aged xxvij. yeres, or theraboutes.

« Harl. MS. 6848, fol. 69 recto.
2 Ibid., fol. 69 verso.

Bari'owist Depositions 53

First that he hath bene in prison a month,...

Item, he saieth he hath held his opinions, but since Michaelmas

last, and was drawen to his opinions, perswaded therto by the

teachinge of lohnson and Greenewood,

Item, he saieth he was most Comonlie, at ther assemblies,

euerye Sondaye, sometymes at S' Nicholas lane, at the woods

by Islington, at Rippons howse, and in Smythfeild at Lees

howse, and at the wood by Detford, and sawe diners Children

ther baptized. /

Concordat cuw Original


[April 4, 1593.]

Thomas Hewet of S'' Martyns Le
grand pursemaker aged xxx yeares

Fyrst he saythe he hath bene in prison a monthe... taken in
the wood by Islington.

Item he hath not bene at Churche this half yere and soe longe
he hath held his opinions and will not showe by whome he was
perswaded to it but only by one Edward Hale a herteffordshire

Concordat cuw original

[April 4, 1593.]

Ghristofer Bowman of Smythfeld Gowldsmyth
of the age of xxxij yeres,. . .

First, that he hath bene in prison in the Counter, in the
Poultre, this v. weekes, comitted by m'' yonge, beinge suspected
to have knowledge whoe made the Libell, and about the Coffyn
brought to m' yonges dore. /...

1 Harl. MS. 6848, fol. 76 recto.

2 Ibid., fol. 70 recto and verso.

54 Early English Dissenters

Item, he saieth he is a Deacon in the congregacton chosen in
September last. /

Item, he saieth he hath not bene at Churche these fyve yeres
last past, wherof he was iiij"', yeres in prison, and soe longe
hath held his opinions, and was one of them that deliuered the
Supplicacion to the Queenes Ma.iestie the last parliament,
before this./

Item, he saieth he was drawen to his opinions, by the course
that the forward preachers tooke, and by a booke, and by
a booke [sic] of a sermon vpon the xij'^'^. of the Romans, made
by master Chatterton, as he thinketh, and by the forward
preachers, he saieth he meaneth one Snape, and kynge, with
others, whose course made him enter into further searche of
the matter of the reformacion. /

Item, he saieth he hath bene at ther metings as often as he
Could, beynge at libertie, and in health, viz. at m' Bilsons
howse neere Chrichurche, at S^ Nicholas lane, in the woods by
Detford, and Islington, at Penries howse, at Lees howse, and at
Rippons howse, and at Barnes his howse in Smithfeld by
S' Bartholomewes. /

Item, he saieth if ther nomber should never soe moche have
encreased, they ment noe Reformacron by stronge hande. /

Item, beinge asked wher he was maried to his last wief, saieth
in Penries howse, wher m"" Settle vsed praier, and that his
opinion is that mariage in a howse without a mynister by
Consent of the parties and frends is sufificient. /

Concordat cum original

5. Aprilis. 1593 Thexaminacton of lohn Penrie Clerke,
of the age of xxx. yeres, or theraboutes,

First, that he was in or about London, the xix'*". of marche,
and that he and Edward Grave went that night to Hodsdon,
wher they laie, at the Antelopp. /

» Harl. MS. 6848, fol. 86.

Barrowist Depositions 55

Item, beynge asked whether they went not from thence to

one lohn millettes howse in hertfordshere, saieth he will not

saie... /

Item he saieth he came out of Scotland about September, last,

in the Company of lohn Edwards/, and came to london, and

lighted at the Corke at longe lane end, and that night lodged

at Stretford bowe. /

Item, he saieth he made, and caused to be printed in Scotland,

a booke intituled a Reformacion and noe enemye to her

Matestie and the State. / and a boke wAi'ch he translated called

Thesis genevencium. /

Item, beynge asked what other bookes he made and caused to

be printed ther he Refuseth to answear. /

Item, he saieth the cause of his departinge out of this lande,

was because he could not be in quiet here, for the ecclesiasticall

state of the land. /

Concordat cum Original

[Apr. 5, 1593.]

Christoier Simkins of Aldersgate strete
Coppersmyth of the age of xxij yeres or ther
aboutes examined before m"" deane of Westminster
m' dale m' Barne and m' yonge, the
daie and yere aforesaid, refuseth to be
sworne but sayeth / ^

First that he hath bene in prison this monthe, comitted by

m' yonge and others, taken in the wood by Islington examined

before m'' Doctor Stanhop and others at his Comitment, and

not since, and never indicted to his knowlege

Item he saieth he hath not bene at his parishe Church this

yere and a half last past, and soe longe hath held his oppinions,

and drawen therto by the preachinge of m' Sparkes and

m'' Cowper and other forward preachers. /

Item he confesseth he hath bene often at the assemblies and

comonly every sabothe daye but refuseth to tell wher.

1 Harl. MS. 6849, fol. 182

66 Early English Dissenters

Item he refuseth to tell whether he hath had any of Barrowe

or Penries bookes. /

Item he sayeth if thcr nombor had increased they would not

have don«[?] any other thinge but serve god/

Item he refuseth to come to his pa?*ishe Churche, and sayeth

he is io)Tied to their congregacion from whence he will not

departe. /

Concordat cum original

5. Aprilis 1593

Francis lohnson minister, but by thassamblies
chosen to be a Pastor of the congregacion, beinge
of the age of xxxj yeres or ther aboutes, examined
before M' doctowr Cesar, m"" doctowr Goodman deane
of Westmws^er m' Barne and m"" yonge. whoe
refuseth to be swome, but saieth^

First that he was first comitted to the Counter in woodstrete
by the Sherif of London and m"" younge, beinge taken in an
assemblie in S'' Nicholas Lane, and lastlye comitted by the
L. Archbyshop of Canterbury and others, beinge taken in
m' Boyses howse in Fletestrete, and hath bene twice examined
before the L. Chief lustice of England, and the L: Anderson
viz. once before the L. Chief lustice of England, and once
before them bothe.

Item he saieth he knoweth not that he is indicted for any

Item beinge asked howe longe he hath held his oppinions saith
he cannot definitely answer, but sayth he was comitted to
prison iiij"' [quatuor] yeres agoe, vppon the makinge of a
Sermon in S' maries Churche [in Cambridge]./
Item he confesseth he hath baptized diuerse children in their
congregacion, and saieth for mariage he doeth not accompt
that an ecclesiasticall matter, nor laid vppon the minister of
god as a dewetie of his ministerie, and also sayth they are not
bound no' tied to the wordes of the Lordes praier, and touchinge
the Comwiunion of the Lordes supper he saieth it maye be

1 Harl. MS. 6849, fol. 181 recto and verso.

Bari'owist Depositions 57

received, at any tyme of the dale or night, when the congre-
gacton is assembled and prepared thervnto. /
Item beinge required to shewe in what places they vsed to
meete in their conventicles and assemblies, refuseth to answer /
Item being asked whether he hath or had anye of Barrowe
Greenewood or Penries bookes, refuseth also to answer but
desireth he maye be accused. /

Item beinge asked whether he hath not labored and perswaded
others to the assemblies and Congregacion wherof he is a
Pastor, and howe manie he hath soe perswaded and drawen
saieth he hath and must doe that which, god laieth vppon him
in dewtye accord inge to his worde, and otherwise refuseth to
answer /

Item beinge asked whether he wilbe contented to reforme him
self and come to Churche refuseth directly to answer but sayeth
he cannot loyne with this ecclesiasticall ministerie, in this estate
of Archbyshops Byshopps Parsons, Vicars, Curates &c. /

Concordat cum Original

[The deposition of lohn Edwardes concerning John Penry
probably made on April 5, 1593.]^

lohn Edwardes came out of Scotlande with Penryn & laye by
the way eue?'y nighte where hee laye, and saieth that Penryn
was not banished out of Scotland, but there was banishment
decreed againste him, and the mynisters eue?' staye the pro-
clayminge thereof.

Hee saieth that Penr3Ti was of this assemblie and was taken by
the waye and broughte to the Conestables house and from thence
hee escaped away on sonday nighte and named himselfe lohn
Harries, and there were two or three Couutreymen comynge
towardes them wch were taken by the way and said they were
goinge to waltham & therefore the lustice discharged them
Hee saieth that one lones was taken & wente home to dynner
with Captem [?] Graye & was afterwardes broughte by him to
the lustice

Hee saieth that on Satterday nighte hee this exawiwant walked
» Harl. MS. 6848, fol. 85 recto.

58 Earlij English Dissenter 8

with Penryn alonge Cheapeside thoroughe Newgate & they
wente to Nicholas Lees house & there this exawinant lefte
penryn & his wife aboute viij of the clocke hee knoweth not
who should haue exercised that day, nor did not heare of any
purpose that they had to goe into the Countreye /
His coniynge out of Scotland with Penryn wjis in Nouember
laste & they came firste to one ra"" yretons house besides Darby
vj miles, and dyned there & came to Northampton to the house
of Henry Godley who is father in lawe to the said Penryn,
where the said Penryn lodged, & this eyiaminant laye at the
signe of the Bull ; & the next day they came from theuce to
S'' Albans [?] & lodged at the signe of the Ghristofer & the
nexte day came to Stratford at bowe to the signe of the Crosse
keyes[?] where Penryns wife was & had a chamber, and this
examinant lefte them there & came to London & sawe him no
more vntill a little before Christmas that they mett at a garden
house at the dukes place neere Allgate, where Penryn did
preache & (as hee doeth remember) Grenewood did preache
there allso & this examinant wente downe into the Countrey &
came not vp vntill Satterday was Sevenighte & since hath laien
at his brother Rochford his house. And vpon wensdaye or
thursday morninge Penryn came to this exarninsintes chamber
before hee was vp & was booted

hee saieth that hee did heare that Penryn was lodged at
m" Settles house

'Rychard young

5. Aprilis. i593. William Smythe of Bradford in

wiltsAire minister of the age of xxx. yeres or
theraboutes, made a minister by the Bushopp
of Litchefeld and Coventrie, and licenced
to preache by the Bushopp of Sarum...

First, he saieth he hath bin in prison this viij. weekes, or
ther aboutes, Comitted...for suspicion to be privie to the
matters concerninge the Coffin caried to m'' yonges Doore, /

» Harl. MS. 6848, fol. 71 recto.

Barrowist Depositions 69

Item, he confesseth he hath bine at an assemblie, at Lees

howse, by Smythfeld. /

Item, beynge asked whether he be of that Churche or Congre-

gacion wherof lohnson is Pastor, refuseth to answear. /

Item, he saieth he came of purpose to Lees howse to thassemblie

there to heare and see ther orders in those matters. /

Item, he saieth he came vp to London to conferr with m'
lohnson. Greenwood, and others. /

Concordat cum Original

[April 5, 1593.]

Arthur Billet of Uanteglos by Fowhey in
Cornwell Scoller, of the age of xxv. yeres, or
theraboutes ^

First, that he hath bene in Prison this fortnight,... who was in
the woode by Islington, and afterwards taken in the Companye
of Penrye and others,...

Item, he hath bene drawen to his opinnions, these two yeres, /
perswaded by certen conferences in the Fleete, betweene
m'' Mullins, m"" Hutchinson, and Barrowe and Greenewood./

Item, he denieth that he hath or had any of Barrowes,
Greenewoods, or Penries bookes, but hath receivid some of the
written Coppies, and caried them over into the Lowe Cuntries
to be printed, and that he hathe seene one of Barrowes bookes,
in Nicholas Lees howse

Concordat cum Original

6. Aprilis. 1593. Quintin Smyth of Southwarke Feltmaker
of the age of xxx. yeres, or ther aboutes. . .

» Harl. MS. 6848, fol. 71 verso.
2 Ibid., fol. 79 recto.

60 Early English Dissenters

First, that he hath bene in prison a moneth,...beynge taken in

a wood by Islington,...

It€m, he saieth he hath held his opinnions about twoe yeres,...

Item, he sayeth he did covenaunt with the Congregacton to
walke With them in the lawes of god, soe longe as ther doinges,
should be approved by the word of god, and soe longe would
forsake all other assemblies /,

Concordat cum Original

[" 6. Aprilis. 1593."]

William Weaver of Grayes Inne lane
Shomaker, of the age of xl. yeres, or
First, that he hath bene in prison a monthe,...beynge taken in
the wood neere Islington,...

Item, he hath bene of his opinions, about a yeare and a halfe
and somewhat more, / and hath bene often at assemblies, viz.
twice or thrice at the wood wher they weare taken and once in
Nicholas Lees howse in Cowe lane, and was drawen first to the
assemblies, by Robert Bodkin, in Grayes Inne lane, Taylor. /

Item, he saieth that if their Nomber had greatly encreased, yet
he thinketh thay ment nothinge against the peace or estate
[i.e., the State]./

Item, he saieth that when he was ioyned to their congregacion,
they caused him to vse words to this effect, that he should
promise to walke with them, soe longe as the[y] followed the
ordinance of Christ. /

["6. Aprilis. 1593."]

Thomas Settle late of Cowelane,
minister, made by Bushopp Freke, but
nowe renownceth that ministrye, of the age
of xxxvuj. yeares or their aboute*,...*

» Harl. MS. 6848, fol. 66.

* Ibid., fol. 65 verso and 66 recto.

Barrowist Depositions 61

Item, he Confesseth that he was p7'esent in the Congregacion
in a howse nighe Algate, within the Wall, when Robert Stokes
was excommunicated, and that he was excomunicated by
Francis lohnson the Pastor, the rest of the officers and the
Congregacion beinge present and consentinge, w^tch was done
for his Apostacy. /

Concordat cum Original

10 [?] Aprilis 1593 George Smelles of Fynchelane taylor of the
age of xl yeares or thereaboutes...*

Firste he sayeth he hath ben in prison ever since sondaye

Item he sayeth he hath his oppinions thes iiij"""^'^ yeares
perswaded thereto by an old man one father Grayves a Car-
penter as he supposeth who is deceased

Concordat cum Original
» Harl. MS. 6848, fol. 59 recto.



[An undated Petition of Helen Penry's to Sir John Puckering
in her Husband's Behalf, written in April, 1593.]^

To the right honorable Sir lohn Puck-
ering Knight Lord Keeper of her
M-Siiesties greate seale of England. /

In all humblenes beseecheth your honnowr yowr poore supplicant
Hellen Penrie in the behalf of her poore husband lohn Penrie,
That whereas your supplicantes poore husband is at this present
kept close prisoner in the Counter in the Poultrie in London,
none suffered to come to him to bring him such thinges as are
necessary for the preservacion of his life and sustanaunce, he of
him selfe being a very weake and sicklie man not hable longe
to endure so hard and miserable imprisonment without hazard
of his life, his allowaunce being nothing but bread & drinke,
the keeper refusing to carry such necessaries as are sent vnto
him for his sustenaunce, yf he were the veriest Traito*" that
ever was, if it is not her M&iesties pleasure that he shold be
thus hardlie vsed, but how soeuer greate matters are laide to
his charge, yet I hope he will prove him selfe an honest and
good subiect to her Maiestie. Most humblie therefore she
beseecheth your honnowr for godes cause in consideracton of her
poore husbandes sicklie and weake estate, that it wold please
yow to graunte her your honnowrs warrant that she maye have
accesse vnto her poore husband, to administer such necessaryes
vnto him as she may for the preservacton of his life, And your

1 Harl. MS. 6849, fol. 207 recto.

Documents relating to John Penry 63

poore Oratrice shall be bound daylie to praise god for so greate
favorer and Mercy shewed vnto her, w'^*' the Lord wold not see
vnrewarded in yow. /

[A Note by John Penry in defence of Mr. Gittens, Keeper of
the " Cownter in the Poultrie in London", dated April, 1593.]^

They doe m' Gittens injury who say that I have wanted eyther
meat or drink competent sync[?] I was committed vnto his
custody. I am lyklyer to starve for could then for want of
meate. my wife in deed cannot bee permitted to come vnto mee,
shee knoweth not how I fare. And therfore she may bee in
feere that I ame in regard of meat and drinke hardlyer [?] vsed
then I ame or have been,
the ^^^ moneth Aprill 1593.

lohn Penry.

[A Subscription of John Penry 's concerning the Authority of
the Queen, of the Privy Council, and of Civil Magistrates, and
three other articles which he declined to subscribe.]^

That hir right exellent [?] maiestie, & the Lordes of hir
honorable privy co[un]sell, yea the most inferioitr civill
magistrate [?] vnder hir highnes hath authority to call any
church or churchman to give an account of the doctrine
wAtch they hould & not fynding [?] the same according vnto
the word may pawish [?] them for it.

lohn Penry

I stande to proue it out of ther owne writinges [?] vpo/i my life
that they allowe not the magistrates of whatsoeuer [?] place
they be ether supreme, or inferiowr, to haue any authoritie
as they call it (authoritatem luris) in causes Ecclesiasticall,
but only potestatem facti to execute that w/a"ch their
presbyterie or Synodes have decreed.

R. Vaughan.

» HarL MS. 6849, fol. 206 recto.
2 Harl. MS. 6848, fol. 93.


Early English Dissenters

That the inferiour ciuill magistrate hath no authoritie to call
the Church or any churchman to giue accounts of their
doctrine (without expressc co//nnandcment from the supreme
magistrate) by open & publike triall,

R. Vaughan.

I hold that the most inferiour magistrate hath nothing to doe
to examyne any Churchman concerning his doctrine but only
to presente him, ether to the Church governoitrs, or to other
ciuill magistrates to take further order with him...

Rich. Vaughan/

He refused to subscribe
to any of these, or to
controuerte [?] them

[" The offers & requester of m' lohn Penryn "]^

/I The offices

2 The maner of calling vnto y^ offices

3 A great part of y® workes wherin the officers
are employed

4 The living ore [or] maytenaunc wherby the
V officers are mayntayned.

Thes thinges by the Lordes assistaunc wee wilbe
ready to make good by the word of god, & yff it
bee thought needfull by the writinges of y® holy

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