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Arms : Quarterly Sa. and Arg., a bend Or (Hoo of Suffolk)



N regard to the maternal ancestry of Simon Lynde's father-in-law

John Newdigate, whose father Phillipe Newegate of Great

Horningsheath married Joane 13 daughter of Gualther (Walter 12 )

Hoo of Hessett, co. Suffolk, we are again much indebted to Capt. Charles

Hervey Townshend for Suffolk records, and other information.

" The family of Hoo had a Saxon origin, and was settled in Kent."
Edrich de Ho was mentioned in a Saxon will in the time of Henry I.,
and several of the name were donors to the church of St. Andrew. They
spread over many counties. At the end of the reign of King John, or at
the commencement of that of Henry III., they were seated in Bedfordshire.
In 1292 Robert 6 de Hoo, who married Beatrix daughter of Alexander
Earl de Andeville in Normandy, is mentioned as holding lands in Herts,

4 Bedford, Cambridge and Oxford. 1 His son Sir Robert 7 Hoo married

5 Hawyse daughter of Fulk Lord Fitzwarine. Sir Thomas 8 de Hoo, Knt.,
son of Sir Robert, married Isabel only child of John de St. Leger Lord of
the manor of OfHey St. Leger, co. Herts, and heiress to large estates in
Sussex, Northamptonshire and Herts. Sir Thomas, M. P. for Bedford, was
Sheriff of Surrey and Sussex, and died in 1380. Their son Sir William 9 de
Hoo, Knt., was an important man during the reigns of Edward III.,
Richard II. and Henry IV. He was in the king's service at Calais in
1370, and in 1387 was made Captain or Governor of the castle of Oye in
Picardy, which office he retained through the reign of Richard II., leaving

1 Robert de la Hoo was a member of Parliament for Hertfordshire in 1298. History of Hertford-
shire. . . . By John Edwin Cussans. . . . London, 1870-73, i. p. 16.



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a deputy, in 1387, when about to proceed to the " Holy City of Jerusalem,"
to be absent possibly for two years. In 1405 he was one of the ambassa-
dors sent by Henry IV. to treat with those of Margaret Duchess of
Burgundy relative to the affairs of the Low Countries. The next year he
was appointed with others to treat with John Duke of Burgundy. He
fulfilled other important missions, and after faithfully serving three sover-
eigns died in 1410 at the age of seventy-five. Sir William de Hoo's
first wife was Alice daughter and coheir of Thomas de St. Omer and of
his wife Petronilla, daughter of Nicholas Lord de Malmaynes, who
brought him the property of Mulbarton, co. Norfolk. Sir William Hoo
obtained Suffolk property through his marriage with the daughter of
Sir John Wingfield. Sir William bore the arms of Andeville, St. Omer,
St. Leger, Malmaynes and Hoo. 2 He presented to the living of Mulbarton,
in 1367, and rebuilt the church and tower. In the chancel he and his first
wife were buried. He had adorned the windows with portraits of himself
and wife, and of her family, with their arms.

There seems good reason for believing that our branch of Hoos
descended from Robert (3) Hoo and Beatrix de Andeville. We therefore
add only a few notes in continuance of the main line of the family.
Sir Thomas 10 Hoo, Knt., son of Sir William, fought in the battle of Agin-
8 court, and distinguished himself on other occasions. His son Thomas 11

was made a Baron. Hamden calls him "the noble Baron Hoo." He was
raised, in 1436, "to the dignity of Chancellor of France." 3 In 1448, in
the reign of Henry VI., he " was elevated to the peerage . . . by the
title of Baron Hoo of Hoo, co. Bedford, and of Hastings, co. Sussex.



5 For Fitzwarine see the Baronage of England. ... By William Dugdale. . . . London
. . . 1675, i. p. 443; and A Genealogical History of the Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct
Peerages of the British Empire. By Sir Bernard Burke. . . . London . . . 1883, pp. 213-14.
For St. Leger see The History of Hertfordshire. ... By John Edwin Cussans. . . . London
. . . 1874-78, ii. 97. For St. Omer and De Malmaynes see An Essay towards a Topographical
History of the County of Norfolk. ... By Francis Blomefield. . . . London . . . 1S06,
v. 76-7.

8 Condensed from Sussex Archaeological Collections. . . . London, 1856, viii. 104-31.



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. . ." He died in 1455. Anne 12 eldest daughter and coheir of this
Lord Hoo married Geoffrey Boleyn, and their great granddaughter became
the mother of Queen Elizabeth. 16

Lord Hoo left no son. His half brother Thomas 11 Hoo, Knt., was a
distinguished man, but we do not follow his fortunes; he died in i486, the
last male of his line. 4



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"A branch of the large and widely scattered family of Hoo was settled at Hessett
[in the diocese of Norwich, co. Suffolk], in 1286. . . . They seem also ... to
have had . . . large possessions in Rougham [adjoining Hessett]. ... In the
twenty-first year of Edward I., a.d. 1293, Sir Robert [4] Hoo puts his seal to a deed [of
land in Hessett]. . . . And ... in the third year of Edward II., a.d. 1309,
granted his tenements in Rougham. 6 . . . The manor of Hoo . . . was styled
Old Haugh, Le Hoo and Eald Hoo, a form which survives in the name of a residence
in Rougham, Eldo House. . . . In . . . 1310 this manor belonged to the office
of Sacristan. In 1312 William de Hoo was Sacristan of the Monastery, and Arch-
deacon of Bury.

"From the title of the tenant in possession 'John 1 '" 1 off Hoo,' used in his Will
dated 1485 ... it may be inferred that the seat of the family was the Hoo, a part
of the parish of Hessett lying close up to Rougham. John [off] Hoo who died in 1485
had two sons, whom he named in his Will, John [11] and Robert. [11] . . .'"



4 Sir Bernard Burke's Dormant . . . and Extinct Peerages, p. 283 ; Fuller's Worthies of
England, i. p. 186; and Sussex Archaeological Collections, viii. m if.

6 These lands in Rougham had been given to the Abbey by Earl Ulfketel, and were leased for
centuries by the Hoos. With the great amount of land in proportion to its inhabitants, the people of
this country know little of the foreign system of perpetual leases. It has been introduced in our large
cities by the owners of some of the great estates who give only ground leases of their lands, to be built
upon, and the leases renewed under a new appraisal, after a certain fixed term of years. In England a
copyhold was descendible "where the custom of the manor so permits, to the heir." A freehold estate,
when an estate of inheritance, was transmissible to the heirs of the tenant in possession, following the
usual laws of inheritance. — Mr. Serjeant Stephen's New Commentaries on the Laws of England. Seventh
Edition. London, 1874, vol. i. p. 221. The rents of the lands of the Monastery of Bury St. Edmund's
were low, the monks easy in their requirements, and tenants in occupation for many successive genera-
tions had almost as much dignity and independence as if they were the real owners of the soil.

6 Materials for a History of Hessett. . . . By the Rev. William Cooke. . . . Proceedings
of the Suffolk Institute of Archaeology. . . . Bury St. Edmund's, 1876, vol. v., No. 1, pp. 55-57-



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"John off Hoo's" wife, whose name was Katharine, appears to have
been the daughter and heir of Reynold Tylly. 7 Before 1480 he built the
chapel for the church of St. Ethelbert in Hessett, which still bears an
inscription commemorative of the gift. s Sir Walter Hoo was one of
his executors.

In connection with Sir William (6) de Hoo of Mulbarton, Norfolk,
who married Alice St. Omer and died in 1410, is mentioned a Sir Walter
de Hoo of the same county, who was no doubt a relative, and was perhaps
a younger brother. "John off Hoo" was of a parallel generation with
Sir William's children.

We give short abstracts of the Will of "John off Hoo," dated
October 20, 1485, proved April 5, 1492, and of that of Walter (2) Hoo,
dated July 26, 1587, proved July 21, 1589 ; the former is from "Materials
for the History of Hessett " (pp. 62-64), and the latter from " The Towns-
hend Family" (pp. 104-05) :

"In the name of God. Amen." Bequeaths and assigns "to my sone John and
to y e eyers male of his Body lawfully be gotyn w' ought ende alle y e lands and ten'ts,
medewes and pastures w' her p'tynenc's y e wiche laste I holde in y e seyd towne of
hessett of the dymyssyon and ffeffement of Reynold Tylly lat e of hessett forseyd.
And also I asynge on to y e seyd John my sone and to heyers male of his Body law-
fully begetyn w* oute ende iiii pees of londe and a pes of medew w l her p'tynenc's
lying in the seyd town of hessett . . . and y e iiii th pece of londe lythe in the



7 In Burke's Gen. Armory arms are given to families of the name of Tylley and Tylly.

8 " The church [of Hessett, dedicated to St. Ethelbert], though of moderate dimensions, presents
features of great beauty and interest." . . . "The history of [the chapel] is written in an inscription
in black letter, which, commencing at the East, runs along the cornice of the solar, the chapel and a
portion of the aisle :

" ' Prey for the s [owles] of jhon hoo and katrynne hys wyf the qweche h [at] h mad y chapel ae*wery
deyl heyteynd y westry and batylmentyd y hele.' . . .

"The concluding words of the inscription, 'and batylmentyd y hele,' that is, the north aisle, draw
attention to a very striking feature of the Church, namely, the embattled parapets, which are on all
parts of the building except the chancel." — Materials for a History of Hessett, ut supra, pp. 3, 5, 6.

We have before us the book with its illustrations of the quaint and beautiful architecture of the
edifice, and the old "black letter" of the inscription.



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townes of Hessett aforseid and Beketon in the ffeld called heyfeld upon y e wente
called Brakelond betvvyn y e londe of y e seyd covent" on y e southe p'ty and y e londe of
Melford College and y e londe of y e seyd covent on y e p'ty of y e northe . . . and
yff it happe y e seid John my sone w* outer eyer male of his Body lawfully begotyn to
desses Than I wyll " all the aforesaid lands "onto myn sone Robrte and to y e eyers
male of his Body lawfully begotyn " forever, and if said Robert die without heirs
male lawfully begotten then all said lands to be sold for the best price obtainable,
"and y e mony theroff be fynally disposyd in good dedys of charyte for myn soule
and for y e soule of myn wyffe Kateryn," etc. Also to son Robert and his heirs male
lawfully begotten, forever, a messuage and piece of land and woodland with appurte-
nances in Hessett "in y e strete called y e cherche strete " etc.; if Robert die without
such heirs, the said messuage and lands to go to son John and his heirs male lawfully
begotten ; if both sons die without such heirs, then the messuage and lands to be sold,
and proceeds expended in charity for the good of the souls of himself and wife
Katharine. Daughters to have preference as purchasers of said estates, paying as
much as a stranger would pay, etc. "Also I will pray and reqwyre all my syngler
feffours y e wyche be feffed unto myn behoue of and in alle y e londes, tent's, medew,
ffedyngs, pasturs and woods w' her p'tyhences or of or in ony p'cell of them, that
they delyver her stocke y l they have after y e tenor and strenkthe forme and effect of
thes my p'sent testament and last wyll, whan they be desyred be [by] myn executors.
And of this myn p'esent testament I ordeyn and make myn executors Syrre Wat r hoo
[Sir Walter Hoo] herry Colge of pakenha" etc.



"Robert his ['John off Hoo's'] son had a wife Agnes who joined with him in the
gift of the font to the church [of St. Ethelbert];"' he died in 15 19, childless, as his
Will" leads me to suppose. . . .



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9 The Monastery of Bury St. Edmund's.

10 This font may still be seen in the church of St. Ethelbert, Hessett, and a cut of it is given in The
Materials for a History of Hessett. It is said to be of "good design and execution" (p. 36.)

11 Proved 1519 ; witnesses : Henry Hoo, John Hoo.

The Will of Henry 12 Hoo of Hessett was proved 20 November 1538; no children. Witnesses:
Walter Hoo, Edmund 12 Hoo. Among the Bury St. Edmund's Wills is one of William 12 Hoo of Heghset
[Hessett], proved 1541, in which he desires to be buried in the churchyard of Heghset, and gives legacies
to the "High Altar of Heghset Church," his father and mother, his children, his brothers and sisters (no
names) and Alys his wife, whom he makes sole executrix. It is signed by John 12 Hoo, Thomas Sket and
Robert 12 Hoo. The above-mentioned Hoos were probably brothers of Walter Hoo. William died
probably in his early married life, and Walter may have survived all his brothers but Robert, whom he
makes his h'eir in case of the death of all his own sons.



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Our careful search in deeds, Wills, records, pedigrees and histories
shows that the Sir Robert Hoo, Knt, who gave a deed of land in Hessett
in 1293, and granted tenements in Rougham in 1309 (both places being in
the diocese of Norwich), was Sir Robert (4) de Hoo, Knt. (son of
Robert Hoo and Beatrix daughter of the Earl of Andeville), of the
Bedfordshire family, whose grandson Sir William (6) de Hoo, Knt, was
seated at Mulbarton, Norfolk (also in the diocese of Norwich), 12 where he
died in 14 10.

So many wealthy heiresses had married into the family that there
must have been much unentailed land to be divided among the younger
sons of several of the earlier generations ; and branches had become estab-
lished in several counties.

We find, as we have seen, that in 13 12, three years after Sir Robert
Hoo, in person, had transactions in Hessett, "William de Hoo" was
Sacristan of the monastery and Archdeacon of Bury, and in possession of
the manor of Hoo. In several places in which the Hoo family established
itself the residence took the name of the family, as " the patrimonial lord-
ship of Hoo in Herts," and Hartford-Hoo in Cambridgeshire ; and
Sir Thomas Hoo was created a Baron in 1448, with the title of " Baron
Hoo of Hoo, in the county of Bedford, and of Hastings in the county of
Sussex." These facts give dignity to the title of Hoo, and convey the
idea that any residence which bore that name was occupied by a member of
the chief line of the family. We find that Sir Robert de Hoo held large
estates at Rougham and Hessett, where was a family-seat bearing from
early times the title of Hoo, showing that this was one of the family-
residences. Can we doubt that William de Hoo was of the same family as
Sir Robert ? As far as we can trace the dates, he seems to have been of the
same generation. Robert Hoo, father of Sir Robert, "had a son William
living in 1388 who must have died .r. />." 13 If William de Hoo had been an

15 The distance in a direct line between Mulbarton and Hesset is about thirteen miles.
13 Sussex Archaeological Collections, p. 131, note.



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ecclesiastic, he could not have married. The Hoo family-influence may be
supposed to have obtained for him the office of Archdeacon of Bury. His
heirs would have been a brother or nephew. No other son of Robert Hoo
is mentioned except Sir Robert his heir. If Archdeacon William de Hoo had
no other brother, a son of Sir Robert would have been his heir. "John off
Hoo " was of an age to be in the same generation as the younger sons of
Sir William who was grandson of Sir Robert, and to have been Sir Robert's
great grandson. It seems therefore safe to suppose that "John off Hoo"
descended from Robert Hoo and Beatrix de Andeville, probably through
Sir Robert, perhaps through Sir Robert's son Sir Thomas, or even through
his grandson Sir William. In any case "John off Hoo" had possession
of the family-manor of Hoo in Hessett, and no doubt by inheritance. It
is evident that "John off Hoo" had an estate, maintained a dignity, and
showed a liberality of means which in those days could have belonged only
to a man of wealth and good lineage.

The Will of Walter (2) Hoo, dated 1587, proved 1589, registered at
Bury St. Edmund's, is as follows :

"I Gualther Hooe of Hessett in the County of Suffolk, yeoman," to eldest son
John, [1S] and his heir male, Freehold in Hesset, Beighton and Rougham . . . Ande
for defaulte of suche yssue male the remainder to the heires males of the bodye of
Robte [19] Hoo for ever." His copyhold lands held of the manor of Rougham Hall' 6
to eldest son John "Uppon condicon that if he the same John Hoo or anye his heires
of his bodye doe discontinue the Limitacons or Remainder of The intaile of my
freehold Lands . . . contrarye to the tenor and true meaninge of this my Will
[as afterwards appears, these " Limitacons " were certain payments to be made in law-
ful money to his younger brothers Jeremy 13 and John, 18 and to his sister Joane (1)],
That then and thenceforthe his intereste in and to the same coppieholde lands shall



14 We see here an instance of what has been referred to in our Newdigate paper (pp. 479, 480. note)
of a use of this term in perfect consistency with high lineage. Thomas Hoo, Knt., half-brother of
Lord Hoo, had died in i486, the last male of the principal line of the family. The Suffolk branch, so
long parted from it, had lost its special distinction.

15 Mr. Thomas R. Tallack, searcher of Norwich Wills for Capt. Townshend, in an abstract of
Walter Hoo's Will writes : "The copyhold of Rougham Hall is mentioned as belonging to the Testator."



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utterlie cease " — in that case said copyhold-lands to go to son Jeremy, provided he
pay a certain sum of money, on certain days, to his younger brother John and his
sister Joane, in default of which said copyhold-lands to go to younger son John,
provided he pay a certain sum of money, on certain days, to his brother Jeremy and
his sister Joane. Some articles were bequeathed to his daughter Joane Newgate,
including his " best round table." "Unto Philipe Newgate of Horningsheath, my
sonne-in-lawe, my best hose and doublett," a "pewter dish to his son, my wife's
godson " [our John Newdigate], and most of the furniture and linen were divided ;
23—25 including some articles " unto Katheryne [,,] Joane [14] and Barbara, [ " ] my eldest Sonne's

26 daughters and to Jeremy's son James [14;l "— " my will is that my crowe of yron, a

pair of yrons for the well, a faire longe table nighe fyve yardes longe, one counter
table with two leaves with a teston over the same of clothe, and the hanginges,
one round back-borded chaier, a presse for clothes and a beame and scales remayne
with y e howse still to the heir male, after my said eldest sonne John hath during
his tyme had the use of them, charging him, as he will answer before God, at
the great daie of judgment, that he break not the true meanige of this my will,
nor the entayhs in the same, my plaine intent being to continue my lannds and tenements to the
heir male, as my Ancestors leftyt to me."

"Appoint eldest son John Hoo Sole executor, etc."

"John off Hoo," in his Will of 1485, as we have seen, gives to his son
John, and his heirs male, " all'e y e lands and ten'ts, medewes and pastures
w' her p'tynenc's y e wiche laste I holde in y e seyd towne of hesset of the
dymyssyon and ffeffement 16 of Reynold Tylly lat e of hessett forseyd " [his
father-in-law] and many other pieces of land in Hessett and Beketon, the
lands abutting upon the monastery of St. Edmund's, 17 and much other



16 " Dymyssyon " = demesne derived from " de maison " — "a manor house and the land adjacent or
near, which a lord keeps in his own hands for the use of his family, as distinguished from tenemental
lands." A Beffment was originally a grant of "an estate held of a superior on condition of military
service." Later the spelling changed to " feoffment," and it came to signify a grant of a free inheri-
tance in fee, not affected by any feudal tenure.

" The monaster)' afterwards called St. Edmund's Bury had been founded in very ancient times
(p. 31). It received its name about a.d. 925 (p. 207) "from Edmund the good young king of East Anglia
called the Holy Martyr," who was killed by the Danes a.d. 870 (p. 41).

It remained under the control of the Benedictine monks till its possessions were surrendered to
King Henry VIII. in 1539, and its rented property became vested in the crown. This property had
been received from early times by liberal endowments from the nobility and various kings of England.



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property in other places, of which the descriptions are not now intelligible,
with reversion to his son Robert if John should have no heirs male.

The historian of Hessett above quoted says: "Of John Hoo's son
John I find no further trace." " I presume that he or his eldest son was
buried in 1558, and styled in the Register 'John at Hoo.'" 18

Now we find that our Gualther (Walter) Hoo of Hessett, in his Will
dated 1587, leaves to his eldest son John (20) Hoo his freeholds in Hessett,
Beighton, and Rougham, etc., etc., and his copyhold-land of the Manor
of Rougham Hall, and forbids him to alienate his property, " my plaine
intent being to continue my lannds and tenements to the heir male, as
my Ancestors left yt to me." 19 It is evident, therefore, that Walter Hoo



Earl Ulfketel who "is supposed to have fallen" in the battle between Edmund Ironsides and Canute
in 1016, gave to the monastery of Bury St. Edmund's "Rougham and eight other extensive and valuable
manors." Among the many places mentioned where the monastery owned land were Horningsheath and
Ickworth. It became " the principal Monastery of the whole kingdom," and a place of holy resort,
kings and queens were among the noble pilgrims to its shrines. . . . St. Edmund's Bury "has been
generally supposed to have exceeded, in magnificent buildings . . . important privileges . . . and
ample endowments, all other ecclesiastical and monastic establishments in England, Glastonbury alone
excepted." The villages around Bury, about the termination of the 13th century, were exceptionally
populous. The ecclesiastics were mild and indulgent landlords. The foregoing is condensed from
"An Illustration of the Monastic History and Antiquities of the Town and Abbey of St. Edmund's
Bury. By the Rev. Richard Yates . . . and the Rev. William Yates. . . . London, 1805. pp.
31, 41, 63, 113, 164, 207, 224.

18 Materials for a History of Hessett, ut supra, pp. 62-64.

19 " The free tenants were they who lived in houses of their own and cultivated land of their own,
and who made only an annual money payment to the lord of the manor as an acknowledgment of his
lordship. The payment was trifling, amounting to some few pence an acre at the most, and a shilling
or so, as the case might be, for the house. This was called the rent, but it is a very great mistake
indeed to represent this as the same thing which we mean by rent now-a-days. It really was almost
identical with what we now call in the case of house property, 'ground rent,' and bore no proportion to
the value of the produce that might be raised from the soil which the tenant held. The free tenant
was neither a yearly tenant, nor a leaseholder. His holding was, to all intents and purposes, his own-
subject, of course, to the payment of the ground rent — " The Coming of the Friars. ... By
Rev. Augustus Jessopp, D.D. New York and London, 18S9. p. 65.

The articles mentioned in Walter Hoo's Will, of which we name but few, show a luxurious mode of
life for the period, especially the very large and the smaller tables, the chairs, the feather beds, pillows
and bolsters, cloth table cover, the hangings, etc. See 2Lort>, p. 252, note 13.



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was eldest son, and had inherited through eldest sons for generations
The property he bequeathed is evidently in great part the same as that
bequeathed by the Will of "John off Hoo" of Hessett, in 1485, to his son
"John at Hoo." As, under English laws and customs, much of the land
was entailed upon eldest sons, there seems no reason to doubt that our
Walter Hoo was eldest son of "John at Hoo " who died in 1558, who was
eldest son of "John off Hoo" and Katharine Tylly his wife. Walter Hoo,
in " defaulte of such yssue male" to his own sons, gave his property "to
the heires males of the bodye of Robrte [19] Hoo for ever." This Robert
was, no doubt, a brother of the testator.

"John off Hoo" having in his Will (1485) named Sir Walter Hoo as
his principal executor, we infer that Walter Hoo, whom we believe to have
been grandson of John, was named for Sir Walter as a relative.

Our argument for the descent of Walter Hoo from "John off Hoo "
and Katharine Tylly his wife is based on the transmission, as proved by
original documents, of what were, apparently, the same lands from eldest
son to eldest son through three generations. We have abstracts of the
principal Hoo Wills recorded at Bury St. Edmund's, and find no mention



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