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Norfolk, E. M., Wm. Bellasis, Hon. Sec.; Sherston
Baker, Richard Ward, H. A. de Colyar, J. R. Weguelin,
Edw. Bellasis (Bluemantle), Rodney Pope, J. Scott
Stokes, Nicholas Ball, Ch. Gandolfi Hornyold, Ulric
Charlton, E. Corry, Henry Edw. Wilberforce, Jos. T.
Lamb, W. Oswald Charlton, C. Devaux, L. Ashton, Ch.
J. Woollett, Valentine J. H. Walsh, Ch. Ernest Ashton,
Ch. J. H. Pollen, Francis J. Roe, Alfred Hornyold,
Wilfrid Wilberforce, Edw. Walsh, Francis Anderton,
W. H. H. Kelke, Ch. A. Hoghton, Howard D. L.
Galton, W. Basil Wilberforce, Stephen L. Simeon,
G. W. Hoghton, Arthur Hervey, Francis Preston,
Osmd. H. Molyneux Seal, G. Ruscombe Poole, S. E.
Lamb, Ch. E. Wegg-Prosser, Richard G. Bellasis,
Henry L. Bellasis, Francis Morgan, Stn. John Spar-
row, W. J. Sparrow, W. H. Pollen, W. North, F. W.
Leigh, H. A. T. Hibbert, J. J. Preston, A. Z. Palmer,
Oswald Palmer, A. Morgan, W. P. Ricardo, H.
O'Connor Henchy, L. E. Gould, F. Gordon-Canning,
Robert G(ordon) Canning, R. J. Cantillon, Daly Murray,
Francis Bacchus, J. E. Preston, Arthur Preston, W.
Kane, F. Waldron, Patrick Waldron, George Talbot,
Hubert Galton, J. F. Shaw, Ch. C. Shaw, W. St.
L. Wheble, Edmund Talbot, J. F. Wegg-Prosser,
Edmund Simeon, H. Bateman, H. N. Bethell, R. E.
Froude, E. Butler-Bowdon, Henry Glutton, F. L.
Prendergast, Joseph Monteith, C. A. Scott-Murray, W.
B. Bingham, H. V. Higgins, C. A. Leslie, A. Corry,
Ernest Charlton, H. Blount, C. O. Gould, Castlerosse,
Francis J. Howard, John Northcote Bacchus.

To the Members of the Oratory School

SUNDAY, July 20, 1879.

I thank you very much for the
Address of Congratulation which you
have presented to me on the great
dignity to which the Holy Father
has raised me. Besides the honour,
he has done me this great service,
that his condescension has, in God's
mercy, been the means of eliciting


in my behalf so much kind sympathy,
so much deep friendliness, so much
sincere goodwill, of which the greater
part was till now only silently cher-
ished in the hearts of persons known
and unknown to me. I do not mean
to say that I did not believe in your
affection for me ; no, I have had
many instances of it. I have re-
joiced to know it, and I have been
grateful to you for it ; but I could
not, till I read your short and simple
words, realise its warmth, its depth,
and (what I may call) its volume.

Your letter is the best reward,
short of supernatural, for much weari-
ness and anxiety in time past.
Nothing indeed is more pleasant than
the care of boys; at the same time
nothing involves greater responsibil-
ity. A school such as ours is a
pastoral charge of the most intimate
kind. Most men agree in judging
that boys, instead of remaining at
home, should be under the care of
others at a distance. In order to the
due formation of their minds, boys
need that moral and intellectual dis-
cipline which school alone can give.
Their parents then make a great
sacrifice, and also make an act of
supreme confidence, in committing


their dear ones to strangers. You see
then what has made us so anxious,
sometimes too anxious namely, our
sense of the great trust committed to
us by parents, and our desire to re-
spond faithfully to the duties of that
trust, as well as our love for, our in-
terest in, our desire, if so be, to im-
part a blessing from above upon their

No other department of the pastoral
office requires such sustained attention
and such unwearied services. A con-
fessor for the most part knows his
penitents only in the Confessional,
and perhaps does not know them by
sight. A parish priest knows indeed
the members of his flock individually,
but he sees them only from time to
time. Day schools are not schools
except in school hours. But the
Superiors in a school such as ours
live with their pupils, and see their
growth from day to day. They
almost see them grow, and they are
ever tenderly watching over them,
that their growth may be in the right

You see now why it is that the
few words of your Address are so
great a comfort to me. Yes they
are a definite formal answer to the


questionings, searchings of heart, and
anxieties of twenty years. Of course
I know that we have been wonder-
fully blessed in the set of boys whom
we have had to work for we have
had a very good material. Also I
know, when you speak so kindly of
my personal influence and guidance,
that this is a reference to more than
myself, and that I can only occupy
the second or the third place in any
success which we can claim. How-
ever, if to have desired your best
good, if to have prayed for it, if to
have given much time and thought
towards its attainment deserves your
acknowledgment, and has a call on
your lasting attachment, I can, with-
out any misgiving of conscience, ac-
cept in substance of your affectionate
language about me.

Before concluding my thanks, I
must express my great gratification
at your splendid gift of vestments,
munificent in itself, and most welcome
as a lasting memento of the 2oth of
July, 1879, and of the Address of
Congratulation with which that gift
was accompanied.

Yours most affectionately,



From the Mothers of the Oratory
School Boys conveying a beautiful

Lady Alexander Gordon-Lennox, on behalf of
the parents, presented the monstrance, with the
following address :


We, the parents of those who
have been and are being educated under
the shadow of the Oratory, beg your
Eminence's acceptance of this monstrance.
We feel that it is unnecessary for us to
say one word in your Eminence's praise,
more particularly here at Edgbaston,
where you are so much beloved ; but
we venture to express a hope that you
will accept our offering as a mark of
the great respect and admiration, the
affection and gratitude we all feel to-
wards you, as Catholics, for the great
services you have rendered to the Church,
and, as parents, for the character and
tone with which your personal influence
has invested the Oratory School. In
conclusion, we pray that God may long
preserve you to us, for the good of His
Church and in the interest of Catholic
education in England.


To the Mothers of the Oratory School

[At the request of the Cardinal a considerable portion
of his reply was omitted in the newspapers of the day
as being at that time too private for such circulation.
It is here given in full.]

It is very difficult for me in set
words to express the feelings of great
gratitude and great gratification which
such an Address from such persons
causes me. I have spoken in the
answer I have just made to our late
scholars the members of the Oratory
School Society of the feelings which
parents must have when they commit
their children either to strangers or to
those who, at least, cannot be so near
and dear to them as those parents are
themselves. I recollect perfectly well
enough of my own childhood to know
with what pain a mother loses her
children for the first time and is se-
parated from them, not knowing for
the time what may happen to them.
It is, of course, an enormous gratifi-
cation and a cause of thankfulness,
where thanks are due, that I should
be that we should be so kindly,
considerately, and tenderly regarded
as we are, and as that Address which
you have read to me brings out.

Concerning our school, it may be


pleasant to you to know that the
Holy Father at Rome seemed to take
great interest in it without my urging
it upon him. I brought before him
the outline of the history of the Ora-
tory for the last thirty years, and he
showed great interest in it, and, I
may say, even mastered all I said,
and I could see it remained in his
mind from that reference to the school
which he made afterwards. I said
that our great benefactor thirty years
ago, Pope Pius IX., had to our great
astonishment, and with that insight
which a Pope has into the future, and
of what is necessary for the Church,
that he had in his Brief given to
me sent the Oratory and the Fathers
of the Oratory especially to the edu-
cated classes, and to what would be
called the class of gentlemen. That
was so far from our thought that we
had turned our minds to farther,
larger fields, such as any large place
presented. But in the Brief he gave
us he expressly said that we were
sent to the more educated and cul-
tivated classes. That, of course, was
easy so far, as we could at once send
a number of our body to London, and
thereby could fulfil the words of the
Brief. But the difficulty still existed


as to those who remained here, and
how we in Birmingham, with the
duties of a parish, which necessarily
includes all classes of people, could
devote ourselves in any way to any
particular class. When I told the
Holy Father that at last we had
thought that by doing that which
many people pressed us to do, namely,
to establish a school such as we
have, we should be fulfilling the Brief,
His Holiness caught at the idea, mas-
tered the idea at once, and when the
time came for me and my friends the
Fathers who were with me to be pre-
sented to him to take leave of him,
then, though what I asked for was a
blessing upon this house, and upon
the house in London, he added of his
own will, " And a blessing upon the
school ". It was a thing he singled
out ; and as we have been blessed
by the blessing of the Holy Pope
Pius IX. on the commencement of
the Oratory, we may look forward to
Divine aid for being guided and pros-
pered in the time to come.

I hope you will not measure my
sense of your kindness to me by the
few words I have spoken, for if I at-
tempted to express my full feelings
I should have to detain you a long


time before I came to an end. But
loath as I am to detain you with
more words I must not conclude
without offering you my best thanks
for the magnificent monstrance which
you and others, as mothers of our
boys, have had the kindness to pre-
sent me in memory of my elevation
to the Sacred College, or without as-
suring both you who are here and
those whom you represent, how ac-
ceptable to us is this token of the
interest you take in the past and
present of the Oratory.


Monday, July 21, was the actual Speech- Day
of the school connected with the Oratory of St.
Philip Neri, Edgbaston, when the prizes were
distributed to the successful pupils by His
Eminence Cardinal Newman. The occasion
was taken advantage of to present addresses
to the Cardinal, congratulating him on his
. elevation to the Sacred College. There was a
large attendance of distinguished visitors, many
of whom were present at the two Addresses
on the previous day.

Amongst others were the Duke of Norfolk, the Earl
of Denbigh, Lord O'Hagan, Lord Edmund Talbot, Lord
Norreys, Lord and Lady Alexander Lennox, the Ladies
Howard, Lady Simeon, the Hon. Mrs. Pereira, the
Hon. Miss Bertie, the Hon. Monsignor Stonor, the
Right Rev. Provost Croskell, V.G., the Very Rev. Canon
Toole, the Misses Simeon, Mrs. and Miss Bellasis, Mr.
L. B. Bowring, C.S.I, (late Chief Commissioner of My-
sore), Mr. and Mrs. Eaton, Mr. and Mrs. Cary-Elvves,
Messrs. Bacchus, P. Bolongaro, W. H Dixon, M. L.
Yates, T. McCormick.

The proceedings commenced shortly after
noon, in the schoolroom, which was well filled
with the visitors and scholars. The first por-
tion of the programme, a string quartette by
Haydn, having been performed by four of the
pupils Anthony Pollen, Gervase Cary-Elwes,
Cecil Cliffe, and Philip Somers-Cocks, the
masters and pupils of the school then pre-
sented the Cardinal with a Congratulatory
Address, which was read and presented by
Anthony Pollen, the captain.


From the Masters and Boys of the
Oratory School.

[Delay in illuminating the Address had hindered its
presentation before the Cardinal went to Rome ; and,
later on, uncertainty as to time was an obstacle to the
substitution of one more appropriate to his return
home. It is given here without any alterations made
while being read.]


We, the masters and boys of
the Oratory School, whom the providence
of God has placed in the home of St.
Philip and under your paternal care, ap-
proach you to-day to congratulate you on
the great dignity which His Holiness
Pope Leo XIII. has proposed to confer
on you. Many of us have been formed
by your teaching, and moulded, we hope,
by your example : all of us know or have
heard often from others, of the wonderful
way in which God's grace has, for more
than thirty years, enabled you, by your
writings, to defend and illustrate the
Church of God : all of us are now, by a
singular privilege, the children of your


house, the daily witnesses of your more
private life, and the recipients of your
constant teaching and guidance ; and
therefore we claim a more intimate share
in the joy which is so universal, when
the Holy Father thus manifestly, and as
it were, in the sight of the whole world,
sets the Church's seal on the work of
your life. This consolation is dear to our
hearts, for we know that, apart from
all considerations of outward rank and
dignity, it must be very precious to you
as the token and evidence of God's ap-
proving recognition. And we pray that
the mercy of God, and St. Philip's
prayers, may preserve you in health and
strength for many years, to adorn and be
adorned by this dignity ; and that it may
be but the earnest of a fuller and eternal
fulfilment to you of our Divine Re-
deemer's promise : " Qui vicerit, faciam
ilium columnam in templo Dei mei, et
foras non egredietur amplius".
We remain, Very Rev. and dear Father,
Your obedient and affectionate children
in Jesus Christ and St. Philip.

Richard V. Pope, Edmund H. Alleguen, N. H.
Higginson, L. G. Meunier, Charles Tregenna, Heinrich
Poggel, Richard Rodney Pope, Anthony Hungerford Pol-
len, Edgar Meynell, James H. Monahan, F. Leigh, Launce-
lot Pope, Charles T. Bowring, D. Ross O'Connell,
Cyril S. Dean, Francis E. Canning, Francis J. Monahan,
Alexander Rawlinson, Edmund Lamb, James R.
O'Connell, Roger A. North, Anthony L Cliffe, Hubert
F. J. Eaton, Philip A. S.-Cocks, Wilfrid J. Crewse,
John E. Cliffe, George E. Pereira, William Hussey
Walsh, William St. L. Saunders, Hubert Berkeley,
Henry Prendergast, Cecil H. Cliffe, Wilfrid P. J.
Capes, Hugo Meynell, James G. Shillingford, Philip

Joseph Pope, Arthur J. Richards, Edward T. Pereira,
Robert A. Shillingford, Morgan Ross O'Connell, Theo-
bald Mathew, Robert Ormston Eaton, Basil St. L. Gais-
ford, Eugene Oscar Parisot, Walter Patrick H. Walsh,
John S. Bradney, Richard Scott Lamb, Henry Parisot,
Edward S. Crewse, John Murray, Leo J. D. Wheble,
Cosmo Gordon-Lennox, Gervase Cary-Elwes, Philip
J. Gajsford, Gerald H. Monahan, D. C. Cary-Elwes,
Henry Vincent Pope, Edmund M. Alleguen, Henry Vin-
cent Leigh, Charles W. Segrave, F. Rooke Ley, Henry
C. Bacchus, Gerard J. Wheble, Denis J. F. Chatto.

[It was not easy to find in a joint address a subject of
genuine interest to both Masters and Schoolboys on which
to found a reply. The Cardinal met the difficulty by
addressing himself to the Schoolboys only.]

To the Pupils of the Oratory School.


I thank you exceedingly. I
feel very deeply the kindness of the
Address from you on the occasion of
my elevation to the Sacred College.
What has particularly struck me and
touched me, as you may suppose, is
your reference to me as being so well
known to you. You say to me : " All
are now, by a special privilege, the
children of your house, the daily wit-
nesses of your more private life, and
the recipients of your constant teach-
ing and guidance ; and, therefore, you
are claiming a more intimate share
in the pleasure which has been so
general". Now, my dear boys, I could
not have anything more kindly, or
which comes more home to me than


that. Of course, I am not a person
who can say how much you know of
me, because boys' eyes are very sharp,
and they look about and see many
things which others think they are
not aware of. Therefore, when you
tell me that you are witnesses of my
more private life, and recipients of my
constant teaching and guidance, I
know perfectly well that I have not
any direct duties towards you in the
way of teaching. That shows that
you must use your eyes very well, and
hence my great pleasure and gratifica-
tion at knowing that your sight and
knowledge of me is so much in my
favour, and also my pleasure in regard
to the accomplishment of those objects
which, of course, I have most at heart.
It would be strange and shocking if I
had not the greatest interest in you.
Though you may not see much of me,
it has been a great anxiety to fulfill
those duties which I have towards you
and to your predecessors. It is now
twenty years since we have had the
school, and we have seen the boys go
out into the world. You, in your
turn, will do the same, and therefore
we look upon you, all of us in our
place, and myself especially, with the
greatest interest and with the greatest


love. Boys not only have eyes, but
they have very retentive memories;
and that is another pleasure which I
have in reading this Address, because
this day and time will be printed on
your memory a long time hence. You
will say : " I recollect that perfectly
well ; it was the day I saw Cardinal
Newman there for the first time," and
you will have something to tell to
those after you. That, of course, is a
great pleasure to me to think that
this day will be in your minds. And
so again, when I look to those who
have gone forward in the career of
life, and see how many instances one
has to look back upon, the way they
have turned out, their excellence, and
the way in which they fulfilled the
duties of their station, and how, in
respect of some of them who have
been taken off by death by the will of
God, what good lives they led, and
how much there is to be thankful for
in their career, which is now finished,
when I think of that, and think of
you who are to go into the same
world, and fight the same battles as
they have, I have great confidence
that you, beginning with such tender
feelings towards your teachers and
me especially, will answer all the


expectations that we have formed of
you, and the wishes we have for you.
I will say no more, but will thank
you, and assure you that, as this day
will remain in your mind, so it will
remain in mine.

The Chapter of Salford and the Manchester
Catholic Club then each addressed the Car-
dinal and received replies.


From the Chapter of Salford.

July 1 6, 1879.

The Chapter of Salford, moved
by those feelings of joy which pervade the
Catholic Body in these countries at the
distinguished honour which it has pleased
His Holiness to confer on you, present
their congratulations to you on your ele-
vation to the Princedom of the Church
of Christ.

On you they have looked for years as
one whom it has pleased God to make use
of, in order to restore to its position in
the minds of the people of England this
long-depressed and long-suffering portion
of the Holy Catholic Church. Won back
to it by the power of its holiness, and the
force of its truth, not through the advo-
cacy or persuasion of any, we have re-
garded you as one whose example would
be the most effective in dispelling those


hindrances to inquiry which the passions
and parties of the sixteenth century had

Great men have been called back in like
manner in past time. Abraham Wood-
head, Gregory Martin, Edmund Campion,
are names to adorn the Church's annals,
but their glory was in the days of the
Church's sorrow. Their learning, their
virtues, their zeal, were sustaining helps to
the Catholics at that time. The confessor's
suffering and martyr's crown was their re-
ward ; but their names perished from
among their fellow-countrymen along with
the national glory of the ancient Church.
To you has been reserved a more peace-
ful time, the calm of less disturbed social
elements, and the brightness of " the
second spring ".

For our joy it is given to you to en-
joy the reputation of the learning of St.
Augustine, and the rank of St. Jerome.
In the fulness of our hearts we pray that,
after years of health and of continued
usefulness here, you may rank with them
in the Church Triumphant hereafter.
On behalf of the Chapter,


To the Chapter of Salford.

In thanking the Chapter of
Salford, through you, Monsignor Cros-


kell, its Right Reverend Provost, for
your most welcome congratulations on
the dignity to which the Supreme
Pontiff has graciously raised me, as I
most heartily do, I thank you quite
as much for bringing before the pre-
sent hearers of your address, and
before myself as regards such success
as has attended me in what I have
done or have written, whether in
point of influence at home or special
and singular recognition on the part
of the Holy Father at the centre of
Catholicity the very apposite reflec-
tion, how much I owe to the happy
character of the times.

I myself thirty or forty years ago
found it impossible to stem the current
of popular feeling, which was adverse
to me, and found that patience and
waiting was all that was left for me ;
but what a trifle of a difficulty was
this, compared with the real and
terrible obstacles which confronted
the Catholic champion in England
in the sixteenth century ! Now our
enemies assail us only with gloves,
not with gauntlets, and with foils
with buttons on, and " words break
no bones " ; but three centuries ago,
the weapons of controversy were of a
deadly character, and how could even


the most angelic sanctity, the most
profound learning, the most persuasive
talent, if embodied in a Catholic con-
troversialist, preacher, or priest, suc-
ceed against the rack, the gibbet, and
the axe. How could he attain to any
other issue of his labours save that of
martyrdom ?

Let us then, my dear Rt. Rev.
Provost, derive from this meeting of
brotherly love which takes place be-
tween us this day, what is indeed
its true moral : that God has been
very good to us, children of this poor
country, that we owe Him great
gratitude, and that His past mercies
are an earnest to us, unless we be
unfaithful, of greater mercies to come.

" The House of Aaron hath hoped
in the Lord. He is their helper and
protector. They that fear the Lord
have hoped in the Lord : He is their
helper and protector. The Lord hath
been mindful of us, and hath blessed
us. He hath blessed the House of
Israel, He hath blessed the House of

I am, My dear Rt. Rev. Provost,
Sincerely yours in Christ,



From the Manchester Catholic Club.

May 27, 1879.

The members of the Manchester
Catholic Club offer you a few words of
congratulation on the high dignity to which
the successor of St. Peter has called you.

We shall not attempt to enumerate the
services which you have rendered in the
years past to the cause of God and of
Catholic Truth. The grateful hearts of so
many who through those services now
enjoy peace in the bosom of the Church,
speak of them before the throne of God.

Those of us whose fathers in the days
of sorrow stood true to Catholic Faith,
and those who through God's mercy have
been led back into the Catholic Church,
have read with more than pleasure your
words of veneration for the undying See
of Peter, on occasion of the distinguished
honour which it has conferred upon you.

We recognise with your Eminence the
growing disease of the age, indifference to
Divine Truth, under the name of Liberal-
ism in Religion, and join with you in
lament, and in reprobation of it.

We cannot in these words say what
our hearts feel, but we sum it up in the
fervent prayer that God may still give
you many years to continue those good
services to His Church and to human


society, which are so heartily recognised
by your countrymen and by all good men
throughout the world.

Signed on behalf of the members of
the club,





To the Manchester Catholic Club.


I could not desire any secular
reward for such attempts as I may
have made to serve the cause of
Catholic Truth, more complete, and

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