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keep for his sake. I suppose Fronde never }:;ot a book or aiiy-
lliing else in his hie merely for the sake of liacbifj it. His
absolute indifference to possession was something marvellous.
Did I ever tell you that he has for two years at least given his
fellowship to Newman to go towards the tracts '? Yet he was
by no means cdrdess al)out money matters ; for he with great
pains put the accounts of Junior Treasurer — which I find
troublesome enough even now — on an entirely new and simpler
plan, to the great convenience of his successor.

Archdeacon FnouDE to Rev. J. IT. Xewmax.

Ma nil 7, 1836.

If your last had reached me a day sooner, dear Hurrell
would have been gratified with hearing that part of it which
was addressed to himself. His affection for all those friends
whom you named was great, and the things engaging their
thoughts were seldom out of his mind.

When I wrote just after our separation I could not trust
myself, nor can I now, to touch on my own sorrows. May
God in His mercy turn them to my profit !

Hurrell Fronde passed away so earl}' in the work of the
Movement, and could work so little for it, that his actual share
in it needs to be sought out through contemporary records.
Little as his pen did, short as his life was, those who can
recall the time feel the influence of his mere presence to have
been essential to the original impulse which set all going.
They cannot imagine the start without his forwarding, im-
pelling look and voice. His presence impressed persons as a
spiritiKtl, though living, influence. He stands distinct, apart
in the memory of those who can recall it, the more that yrars
did not dim the brightness and lire which became him so well
in his office as inspirer.

The reviewer of Fronde's ' Piemains ' thus dwelt on the
singular charm of his presence and conipanion^-hip : — ' The

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strength of his rehgious impressions, the Ijoldness and clear-
ness of his views, his long habits of self-denial, and his un-
conquerable energy of mind, triumphed over weakness and
decay, till men with all their health and strength about them
might gaze upon his attenuated form, struck with a certain
awe of wonderment at the brightness of his wit, the mtense-
ness of his mental vision, and the iron strength of his argu-
ment.' '

Ekv. J. H. Newman to J. TW Bowden, Esq.

Oriel College : March 2, 1836.

Yesterday morning brought me the news of Froude's
death ; and if I could collect my thoughts at this moment, I
would say something to you about him, but I scarcely can.
He has been so very dear to me, that it is an effort to me to
reflect on my own thoughts about him. I can never have a
greater loss, looking on for the whole of my life ; for he was
to me, and he was likely to be ever, in the same degree of
continual familiarity which I enjoyed with yourself in our
Undergraduate days ; so much so that I was from time to
time confusing him with you, and only calling him by his
right name and recollecting what belonged to him, what to
you, by an act of memory.

It would have been a great satisfaction to me had you
known him. You once saw him indeed, but it was when his
health was gone, and when you could have no idea of him.
It is very mysterious that any one so remarkably and vari-
ously gifted, and with talents so fitted for these times, should
be removed. I never, on the whole, fell in with so gifted a
person. In variety and perfection of gifts I think he far ex-
ceeded even Keble.^ For myself. I cannot describe what I owe
to him as regards the intellectual principles [i.e. philosophy]
of religion and morals. It is useless to go on to speak of him,
yet it has pleased God to take him, in mercy to him, but by
a very heavy visitation to all who were intimate with him.
Yet everything was so bright and beautiful about him, that

' British Critic, vol. xxvii. p. 396. - See Appendix.

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to think of him must always be a comfort. The- sad ft( lin<^ I
have is, that one cannot retain in one's memory all one
wishes to keep there, and that, as j-ear passes after year, the
image of him will be fainter and fainter.

The strict chronological order of the last few letters has
not been observed for obvious reasons. Mr. Newman at
Oxford had to carry on his ordinary correspondence on the
great public interests of the time, wliile his thoughts were
dwelling on the scene passing at Dartington. Thus the follow-
ing few lines to Mr. Keble were written when the heart of
both writer and receiver would be dwelling on the friend wiiose
life was passing away.

liEV. J. H. >si:W.M.\N TO TvEV. J. IvKULi;.

Oriel: Fchniari/ 2i>, iS.^6.

I have received this morning a note from liose, of wliich
at once I send you an extract.

'I wish to tell you in strict confidence that the Aieli-
bishop went at once about Keble to the Duke of Wellington,
but it was too late. The person's name who is to be Head
[St. Mary Hall] when ])r, Hampden resigns, I must not
mention : he will do neither harm nor good. You may say
this to Keble, but to no one else.'

The following letter is noteworthy on two accounts : as
another illustration of the freedom with which Mr. NewniiuTs
friends volunteered their advice on wliat may be considered
delicate points, and again as showing the estimate in which
sermons merely as such were held ])y the literary i)ublic of
that day.

Samukl F. Wood, Es(^. to Rev. T. H. Newman.

Tc))ijilr : Moiuhti/, l-'tl>riiari/ 2S, I S^r».

I am sending to-day in a cover to lingers my account of
Buusen's Hymns, iieally the liunsen iias taken me a good

176 J oini //ciiry Nciuinan 1S06

deal of time ; l)ut I am quite sensible that I have brought out
what I had to say in a very dull and clumsy way, and I am
annoyed at not being able to mend it. So I am quite jn-e-
pared to be punched it' so be [for the * B. C ?].

Rivington has sent me the transcription of your paiKn- on
Tradition. You did not tell me whether I am to take it to
the Frenchman or not, or what I am to say about it.

I have looked over the two University Sermons, both of
which were old acquaintances. Unless you thought of giving
us a whole volume of such sermons, I do think the two would
appear much better in the form of essays. They would only
want a new beginning and end each ; and you have no idea
how the very name of sermons restricts a book's circulation,
while essays are eagerly caught at, and many are surprised
into the consideration of subjects which would otherwise
never be presented to them.

Should this find you in Devonshire, though I hardly dare
utter any hopes or fears [Froude at this time lay dying], lest
they should be importunate, I cannot help offering my
affectionate regards.

Sir Francis Palgrave to Piev. J. H. Newman.


I do earnestly hope that you will continue by means of the
press to enable those who cannot enjoy the privilege of hearing
you in the pulpit to profit by 3'our labours.

The necessity of pointing out, in an unflinching manner,
the anti-Christian tendency of our modern literary and scien-
tific pursuits, but most particularly the latter, increases every
hour. The harlotry of philosophy perverts thousands who
are proof against the grosser seductions of the senses. It
would be well if some means could be found of giving more
jnihlic icarnuKj of the tendenc}'^ of the works produced by the
class of decent infidels ; they have a great currency. The cir-
culation of the ' Tracts for the Times ' is far too limited to
produce much effect.

Most of the pojnddr scientific works, especially those in-

1836 Letters anei Correspoudeuee 177

tended for 3'outli and for females, are tainted to the core with
neology and infidelit}-. Of this, I could, if you liked, give you
■one or two remarkable examples.

Attached to a packet of letters, the following words, signed
J. H. N., usher in the March of 1836 : —

March 1836 is a cardinal point of time. It gathers about
it, more or less closely, the following events : —

1. Froude's death.

2. My Mother's death and my Sister's marriage.

3. My knowing and using the Breviary.

4. First connexion with the ' British Critic'

5. The tracts becoming treatises.

6. Start of the ' Library of the Fathers.'

7. Theological Society.

8. My writing against the Church of Eome.

9. Littlemore Chapel. /

A new




The last entry in this list — ' Littlemore Chapel ' — has suc-
-cessive notices in the correspondence of the i^eriod. It may
be said here that the connexion of Mr. Newman and the ladies
■of his family with Littlemore was what may be called ideal :
men, women and children all of one mind in their devotion
to them, and whatever work they had in hand.'

J. W. BowDEN, Esq., to Bev. J. II. Newman.

Man-]i 3, 1836.

Tliat I had not the happiness of knowing Froude as you
did is a sul)jeet of my regret ; thougli, knowing as much of

' A letter of this date shows the interest felt in the buililiiip; of Littlemore
Chapel. ' . . . The church is externally finished, except perliaps the pointing
and washing of some parts, and they began yesterday to lay the floor or pave-
ment. Our school-children bring us continual anecdotes with the greatest
glee. They told us yesterday that the workmen individually are so anxious to
have the pleasure of each ringing the bell to call the rest, before the others,
wliich falls to the lot of the earliest, that there is almost a race among them to
be on the ground before the time.'


178 foJni Ilcuj-y Nciuniaii 1830

him as i did l)_y description l)cforehand, and ftMling conse-
quently a conviction of the accordance in so many points of
his views and principles with my own, I hncw him mucli
better during the two or three days of our acquaintance than
I could under other probable circumstances have done.

A day or two before, I remarked in the paper the death
of one whom I never saw, Menzies of Trinity : Ijut 1 knew
him by name, as one of the Oxford tract writers, and I was
thinking of him as the first of your immediate party who had
passed within the veil. [N.B. — Three men died three days
running; Menzies February 27, Froude February 28, Anstice
February 29. — J. H. N.]

PiEv. J. Keble to Eev. J. H. Newhan.

Hurslcy : MarcJi 5.

I very much wish, if I may be allowed, to drop some hint
at Winton that the Archbishop himself wishes for such
addresses as we are waiting to forward. Barter at first, as
well as Moberly, entered warmly into our wishes, and began
sounding people ; but first the Dean declared he would not
sign, and cause why ? He would not sign anything except an
address to the King for Convocation. Then Mr. Charles Baring,
who is one of the Bishop's men, said he thought it wrong to
interfere with the prerogative, &c. &c. And now Archdeacon
Bayley writes earnestly deprecating any interference, and
wants us to believe, on his authority — for he gives no
reason — that in a month's time we shall be of the same

I have written to propose to him summoning his college
and addressing either the King or Archbishop, or at least the
Bishop of Winton, as Visitor, which I conceive would be strictly
in accordance with the Founder's views ; but he has not
answered this suggestion, and I suspect is cooling fast. How-
ever, the Bishop is coming on Tuesday, and I am to be in-
stituted Wednesday at Winton, when I suppose I shall sec
some clergymen.

Mr Howe, a clergyman of Southampton, writes me word

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that they all seem well disposed there, but are apt to wait
till they see what Winchester does.

Eyre has got your pamphlet, and is trying to stir them
up at Salisbury.

Forgive me for not doing anything for the Theological
Society this term agahi. You know how I have been hin-
dered ; but you don't know how ill I am prepared.

Eev. J. 11. XinvMAX TO PiKV. .J. Kkblk.

Orhl: Marrh 6, 1S36.

The Archbishop would like large bodies to move, as Areh-
deaconrics, but deprecates bodies of thirty or forty clergy.
However, in a short time small bodies may move also. Any-
how, Winchester is not sucli. A capital address from the Arch-
deaconry of Bath. r>ristol lias sent up an address signed by
nearly fifty clergy. Archdeacon Barnes is moving in J)('Von-

I shall be for printing some useful documents; one will \)c
dear Froude's article on the; Prconunlrr, and his Hooker
paper. We have collected a number of historical passages,
showing how Premiers, in the matter of patronage, have
encroached on Archl>ishops. There is a splendid a propns
passage in Bishop Newton's life.

There was a talk of Gladstone making a speech on the
subject in the Connnons, and we have been waiting to use
it. . . .

We have indeed had an irreparable loss, but I have for
years expected it. I would fain l)e his heir. When I was
with him in October, 1 so wished to drink out his tlioughts ;
but found they would not How, except in orderly course, as all
God's gifts. It was an idea of JiowdenV: the other day that,
as time goes on, and more and more saints are gathered in,
fewer are n(^eded on earth. The City of God has surer and
deeper foundations day by day. The few, the one or two, and
they, however weak, light at a great advantage.

The following letter bears on the hilluence of llurrell

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Fronde -tlio sense at the ihuc tliat it was a personal influence
— as in a degree vanishing with his presence :


East Faiic'ujh : March g, 1S36.

How can I begin a letter to you without thinking of the
incomparable friend whom we have lost ! It grieves me not
to have seen him these last three years, yet perhaps, if I had,
my grief would be greater, because I should more feel his loss.
If yon see any of his family, would you ask them to let me
have some one book of his as a memorial ? There is something
inexpressibly melancholy in the passing away of such a spirit
without sign or memorial ; yet perhaps it is a sign not
uninstructive to beings so prone to fix their thoughts on things
cf this world. Yet it would be a gi'eat consolation to me to
contribute to something which would perpetuate the judgment
we have formed of our invaluable friend. If any monument
can be put up for him at St. Mary's, I should like to give
towards it 20/. I think it should not be a plain one, but
accompanied with some figure, or something of that kind. I
do not know what others feel, but think there is much reason
in such expenditure for those we have loved. It is the best
form of selfishness, and I think it may often call forth the
feeling of kindred spirits to those who are gone.

Yen. Archdeacon Froude to Eev. J. H. Newman.

Tkirtiiujton Parsonage : March 9, 1836.

This morning I have been strongly pressed to get up an
address to the King. Dr. Hampden's appointment is the
immediate cause, and there is a feeling among the clergy in
the neighbourhood that some public expression of our senti-
ments should be recorded, though we have little hope of doing
o^ood. ... As these matters come easy to you, will you allow
me to ask your advice, and such assistance m framing a short
petition as you can favour me with ? My notion is, that Dr.
Hampden's name need not be mentioned, though the allusion

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cannot be misunderstood ; and that our prayer should l)e con-
ihiedj to askmg some security against the nomination of
improper persons to high stations in tlie Church — meaning, of
course, the Archbishop's sanction. . . . [X.B. June 24, 1862.
. . . The point of the whole ^lovement, I thiidc, was the address-
ing the King, not the Minister. This frightened, apparently, the
Archbishop — x'ulc Eose's official letter above ; and it nettled
Lord Melbourne considerably, who wrote, in his answer to
Pusey's private letter to him, that another time it would be
wise '\\\ Pusey, if he wanted a thing done, to go to those who
could do it — meaning, not the King, but the Minister.]

Eev. a. p. Perceval to Piev. J. H. Newman.

M((r()i 18, 1836.

Thank you, my dear friend, for your letter, which dike all
yours) is a comfort to me, and a great proof of your regard,
to be written amidst such outward and iiiwai-d pressure.

. , . About Convocation . . . will your (Uspcnsin;/ analogy
hold '? Is there no difference between the Church in her
Canons directing such alterations (as in sprinkling) and the
violence of brute force without, compelling alterations ? . . .
But take your own ground of expediency. Can it be expedient,
or is it not tempting Providence, to abandon interests without
remonstrance, tlu; oiilij S(it'c;itKinls to the endowments of the
Church which the constitution both of Church and State has
provided ? As to angr}' discussion [X.]3. in ( 'onvocation],
remember they can discuss nothing but what is submitted to
them, and can originate no new matters. ])ut 1 will not
harass you with arguments wliicli you ]ia\e iiodoiiht already
fully considered.

Does it not seem to you that, however desirable in Catholic
times the e<puil vote of the Presbyter with the Bishop in
spiritual matters may have been (in temporal ones it is
expressly enjoined), 3'et that, in our circumstances, with regard
to the ajopointment of Bishops, the only reasonable liope of
maintaining sound doctrine, if alterations are to bo propc^sed,
which they will soon be, would be in the Pre'>l)yfi r^. wlio ;iro

iJS2 foliii Ilcnry NciJiiiaii IB.'JO

indcix'iulenl of the State comparatively ? . . . And then you
will wish in vain for the Convocation which is now to be
siinrndfird for ever. We may then have the melancholy
satisfaction of followinj^' the steps of the Non-jurors. [N.B.
June 15, 1862. — In the extracts of letters of 1833-1836, there
are letters of Perceval's on this subject. I had written papers
* On the Convocation ' in the ' British Magazine ' in 1834, not,
however, giving any opinion. — J. H. X.]

The following letter relates to the recent meeting of Con-
vocation at Oxford to oppose the appointment of Dr. Hampden
to the liegius Divinity Professorship. This protest was carried
l)y an immense majority, but vetoed by the Proctors.

J. W. BowDEN, Esq., to Eev. J. H. Xewman.

Loitdun : March 29, 1836.

I do not think that the world here is at all aware that the
proceedings of this day week were not a complete end of the
whole business. You must not let the continuation of your
labours appear like a rcncical of them. Besides, you ought
to let the non-residents see what the}' have pledged themselves
to. As yet, the ' Chronicle ' ct id genus onine remain without
any particular contradiction, while asserting ' There is now
in Oxford but one feeling of disgust and regret, &c.,' meaning
the doings of your Committee.

I hope you were not the worse for the labours of the
eventful day. I found myself, on the day after my return,
' pretty considerably tired,' to borrow a phrase from our
American friends.'

S. F. "Wood, Esq., to Piev. -J. H. Newman.

Temple: Easter Eve, April 2, 1S36.

It is desirable that the enclosed should not be delayed
[viz. Perceval's petition for Convocation]. I told you in

' See on the subject of this meeting in opposition to Hampden's appoint-
ment, Letters of licr. J. B. Mozlcy, D.D., p. 54.

1856 Letters and Correspondence i8


Oxford that Doclswortli was anxious to learn your opinion
respecting the impending Church measures ; however, we were
too much absorbed by other matters to come to anj'thing
definite. . . .

I still Ihid a feeling of uneasiness at your joining, as
people call it, with Boone \\.c. in the ' British Critic' — J.H.N.] ;
and the spirit in which the articles in this number on the
Oxford Tracts, itc. — and even your own sermons — is written,
will, I think, impress you with the reasonableness of distrust
of him and his. I do not say this at all as if I had changed
my OMn mind about its being the best thing that could have
been done to use that Review as an instrument, but merely to
point out the desirableness of placing j'our own articles in
cxmtyaat with theirs as soon as possible, instead of any attempt
at harmonising.

If the Hampden business comes on again, please let Bogers
or somebody write to me in good time.

•T. "W. BowDEN, Esq., to Bev. J. H. Newiiax.

Kastrr Ere, April 2, 1836.

I wisli you could tell me for J. Watson's information
whether l)r. Wiseman went as ijonr iiucst to Oxford, or was in
any way under j'our special patronage there "? He wants t()
give an answer to some one else on this subject, and hopes to
be able to give one sufficient to prevent, as he says, your good
fame being evil spoken of.

The Watson of whom 'Slv. Bowden writes in this letter
was, no doubt, Mr. Joshua Watson. To the question asked
Mr. Newman replies at once :

April 4, 1836.

I feel much obliged by Mr. Watson's inquiry. The simpK;
answer is, that to the best of my belief Dr. Wiseman has not
been in Oxford— at least, not in the University, tliougli lie
may havi- passed through in a coacli.

The origin of the report is tliis. When at Borne, I. as
every one else, was introduced to him. In c-onsequence, last

1S4 fohn llcnry Xcicuian


July, a IViciul of his (a priest, Ji. C), passing through Oxford^
l)i'Ouglit a k-ttcr of introduction from hhn, and dined in the
Connnon-llooni, wliich for four hours was the scene of sundry
amicable disputes. In the letter of introduction Dr. Wiseman
said he was comhifj, but I believe he never did. Had he come
I should have been bound, as I am still, to show him the
same kind of general civility which he showed me at liome ;
and which poor Pusey was obliged last week to show to a
Crifpfo-Sdciiiiaii sent here with a letter to him.

liEV. J. Keble to Eev. J. H. Xew:\ian.

Ilni'.slrij : April/, 1 836.

Consider whether it might not be good for you to com&
down here for a week or fortnight when the bustle, which I
suppose will be occasioned again by the Hampden controversj^
is over ; and bring dearest Froude's papers with you, which
one would have a sad pleasure in perusing here, where all my
recollections are strangely mixed up with the idea of him.

Ogilvie was very urgent w-ith me the other day to send in
my name as a candidate for the Bampton Lecture. Now, the
time is gone by for this year, but I have an idea for another
year which yourself suggested, and I should like to discourse
on it with you. I mean taking up that plausible view of
Romanism — which you give in the first of those ' Home
Thoughts,' namely, as a development of the spirit of the first
ages — and, trying it on various particulars, it strikes me that
I might do myself much good by reading with a view to it,
and might at any rate strike out something which would do
good to the cause collaterally. But has it been done? or, are
you doing or nicaninri to do it! Tell me true, on your

Bev. J. F. Christie to Eev. J. H. Newman.

Saturday night, April 9, 1836.

I heard news on the coach to-day which shows what good
has been done by agitating, and how necessary it is to keej)

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it up. A Paigbeian, ^YllO had just returned from utteiidiiiK llie
Piugby meeting, ahviiys held in Easter week, says that Lord
Melbourne has written to Arnold to say that he was very
anxious to make him a bishop, but that ii^ consequence of the
recent proceedings he could not venture to do so just at
present. The information had come (with one step interposed)
from one of the llugby Masters.

The following ' rough ' notes of a letter to ^Ir. Eose are
upon the sultjects dwelt on in the paper called ' Home
Thoughts Abroad ' :

PiEV. J. H. Newman to Rev. H. J. Rose. [Transcribed
from a rough coi^y. — J. H. X.]

Orid Culh'tjc : Aiml 10, 183O.

As to your kind message about dear Froude, I will consult
with Keble \i.c. whether a notice should be put of him into
the ' British Magazine '].

Your i)ostscript requires a prompt answer, though I feel it
very difficult at a moment to express my own feelings on the
subject it refers to.

I seem to have vast and complicated truths before me,
and must not be thought inconsistent if at different times I
give different reasons for what I have said in those 'Home
Thoughts ' \y\dc ' British Magazine ' for ^farch and April i i>36].
Nor can I quite recover the state of mind under which I wrote
them. A substantial agreement in my different explanations
I promise (but perhaps I have not realised to myself in the

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