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What has been to me distressing in my work, is, that it
lias been one of the causes which kept me from being much
^Yith my Mother lately. But there was another cause. I
mean of late years my Mother has much misunderstood my
)"eligious views, and considered she differed from me ; and she
thought I was surrounded by admirers, and had everything
2ny own way ; and in consequence I, who am conscious to my-
>:elf I never thought anything more precious than her sym-
pathy and praise, had none of it.



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Nothing could be more uniformly kind and amiable and
more sweet than Mrs. Newman's manner to her children and
to their friends ; but the stir and tone of the Movement might
well disturb her inner thoughts, as she was not constituted to
throw herself into it, either by temperament or by circum-
stances. Her sympathy was what her son missed, and that
she could not always give. And he sorrowfully confesses to
his sister, looking back, that his manner under the change
might sometimes ill express what was in his heart.

J W. BowDEN, Esq., to Eev. J. H. Newman.

June 30, 1836.

Keble's Preface is most glorious [to Hooker ?]. I am look-
ing anxiously for your new article in the ' British,' and have
great pleasure at the thought of being myself found, nearly
eighteen years after our first appearance on St. Bartholomew's
eve, again in juxtaposition with you.

F. EoGERs, Esq. to Eev. J. H. Newman.

Eliot Place : Saturday, July 2, 1S36.

Wood is most sanguine and eager to know every one who
holds out prospects of being bettered, and says, ' Do you know,
Eogers, I do not see why we should not absorb all young

Evangelicals.' This is a jji-opos of , on whom we are to

call together : sv '^svolto. Wood is eager for controversy with
people, and his sine qua non for thinking them promising is
an anxiety to discuss and argue questions. He is most warm
in his expressions of affection, &c., about Bowden. What a
hit you have made there ! He hardly ever sees him, he says,
without finding out something fresh to like in him.

I have set to work fairly this week at attending Courts.
The great gain will be that it will bring me very much across
Wood. He lets me sit in his room when I am tired of hear-
ing arguments in Court, and tells me what to read, and
lectures me. In the meantime this does not agree very



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well with Bentham. The article [on Bentham], I think, must
be finished before the partridge-shooting begins.

Wliat do you think of doing about the * Lyra ' '? [Arranging
and editing. — J. H. X.] If I could be of any use 1 shall be
very glad and like it much. N.B. — I know that I am not up
to half your meaning in different places.



Rev. J, H. Newman to F. Eogers, Esq.

Or'id: July 5, 1836.

I will scribble as well as this weather lets me, which, in
spite of our thick walls, is hot. Perhaps I never recollect it
80 hot indoors here ; the glass in vny room is at 78^.

What could make you think I was waiting for a letter from
you? My purpose is to come to you on Tuesday the 19th on
two conditions : first, if 3'ou will take me ; secondly, if I can
get my church served on the 24th, which I do not doubt I
shall, but have not yet secured. But be sure to be frank witli
me as regards your engagements.

Your letter was very encouraging and amusing. Do not lose
sight, or rather you must find sight, of Mr. Matthison. Your
news about Wood is capital, and about your article also. If
the letters come in your way collected from the ' Globe ' about
us, they are worth reading. Certainly they are, on the whole,
very accurate, and most encouraging. To be recognised as a
fact is everything. If you form a knot in London, and set about
puzzling the Peculiars, kc, I shall not regret one bit being left
alone. An Apostolical bookseller, a friend of Mr. Norris's,
is setting up here. He was a Dissenter. Dr. Wiseman (some-
what coolly) has sent me down two fresh Papishcrs last night ;
they dine with me to-day, and I can get no one to meet them
but Berkeley. I think of laying down the rule that such
parties in future must first conform to the Established
Church. On this view, I took them to St. Mary's this morn-
ing, and they were morigerate through the Exliortation
and half the Confession, when they bolted. N.B. — One is a
Priest and a Doctor. I almost thought I had converted them.
(Now, my dear E., do not criticise !)



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John J/iiiry Ncuinan Ih.-jg



'riiorc is iif) news liore. I have been making tracts and
' Cliurclies of Fathers.' Do you see an answer to Pusey's
' JJaptisni ' has come out under the title of 'A Tract for the
Times against the Oxford Tracts,' which pleases me for two
reasons: first, it calls itself a tract for the * Times,' which it
would not do unless that were a very good name ; next, it is
obliged, in consequence, to call ours the ' Orford Tracts,' which
is good again.

I am now going to dear Fronde's papers, and perhaps
shall transcribe them. My lectures are drawing to a close,
and I almost think of making something of them, but fear
the labour.

Thanks for your offer about the ' Lyra ' ; your assistance will
be everything. I have told Pdvington you will call for any
loose sheets he has from the ' British ' with ' Lyras ' in them.
"What I should like you to do (unless my proposal goes beyond
your ofifer) would be to get a blank quarto book, and to paste
them in one by one (or else, not doing this, merely number
them). I think this would answer every purpose, or perhaps
sometimes one way, sometimes the other. I should wish the
series to begin with Scripture subjects, under the heads of
Noah, &c., Moses, &c., Balaam, &c., Jonah, &c., down to St.
Paul, &c. Then would commence the Church series, and the
difficulty how to arrange — often sets are ready made — stray
poems would sometimes admit of incorporation with these.
Other sets would require making altogether. However, if you
were to get ready by the time I come to you, we might do it
together then.

If I could write a flash article on the subjunctive mood, I
would, merely to show how clever I was ; but I fear I can't — but
I do not mind talking with you. I am most uncommonly
delighted at the way "Wood speaks of Bowden, but discern no
* hit ' in it, except in the circumstance that they both were in
London.

The allusion at the end of the following letter is to the
death of the sexton of St. Mary's, under very painful
circumstances.



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PvEv. T. H. Ni:\vMAN' TO J. B. :\rozLEY, EsQ.'

Ond Collff/c: J nit/ 10, 1S36.

Tell Tom that, to 1113- surprise, the seven arches [in Little-
more Chapel, then building] are whole, and come out from the
wall, whereas I thought they were to be in alto-relief or pilaster-
wise. My only fear is they will be too much of a thing. I
shall have the cross cut or sunk in the stone that it may not
be too prominent, since I see Banting [the builder] is bent
on giving it the effect of a small cross on the altar. ... I am
perplexed whether a stone alfdr admits of cushions, and think
I shall look at Westminster Abbey to determine. If Tom
differs from my expressed judgment in any of these matters,
or can help me, let him write me a line.

It dwells on my mind that, for what I know, had the
custom of the times allowed me to hinder that sexton coming
to the Communion, he might not have come to so miserable
an end. Thus the so-called harsher course is the more kind.
I paused before I administered to him, saying to myself, * I
do not know this man's heart : perhaps he has come re-
ligiously ' ; but RULES would dispense with the necessity of
thus doubting. Ah me, what a state the Church is in ! . . .

Love to my sisters, and thank them for their letters.
Littlemore people are /// statn quo. . . .

In a previous letter, speaking of Littlemore Church, now
near consecration, j\Ir. Newman had said : ' \ cannot afford
the flagon, and must be content with chalice, paten, and
plate. I will have I. H. S., and nothing else.' He now
writes :

Bev. J. 11. Nkwman to J. "\V. BowDKX, Esq.

J nil/ 12, 1836.

Your offer [a flagon for Littlemore Church] is most welcome,
as it is most munificent. Very pleasant will it always be.
You must have your names on it, and if you think l-'nglish

■ At Derby.



202 fo/ui Ilcnry Neiuman 1836

would be boastful, at least you could have them in Latin ;
but anyhow they must be there. As a suggestion, I throw
out the following ; but you will make something a great deal
more suitable : — ' Quo memoria sui j intra hos parietes |
semper superstes esset | [Lagenam | hanc | Deo sacram
voluerunt | Joannes Gulielmus Bowden | Elizabeth Bowden]

A.S. MDCCCXXXVI.'

It will be best, on second thoughts, I think, not to engrave
the inscription till the church is actually consecrated as
St. Mary and St. Nicholas. Not that there is any doubt of
it, but it is more business-like. And, as I had intended to
have J. Watson's inscription [Mr. Joshua Watson gave the
chalice, &c.] done here, yours may be done too, if you like.

I was so hurried on Monday that I did not express suitably
to you how kind I felt it in you and Mrs. Bowden to wish me
to be sponsor to your little boy. I have hitherto had only two.
I would not have any but an intimate friend's child, and
they are a real pleasure. My two godchildren are continually
in my thoughts, and a great pleasure, particularly as life goes
on, and one is more cut off from domestic ties and thoughts.

Eev. J. H. Newman to Be v. J. Keble.

Orid : July ly, 1836.

I send you the remainder of your sermons. One or two
seem to me incomplete. I am anxious lest I should not be
giving a good and correct judgment of them as a ichole. So
far I seem to be on sure ground ; their coming from you will
make them read, and, since they contain numerous protests
against existing errors, this will be, must be, useful. Next,
granting some to be somewhat abstruse, and some not to be
striking, yet many are very striking. Yet, after all, I am so
much afraid of my individual taste biassing me. Then, again,
I was thinking about your parish sermons. Parish sermons
would be more popular, and, if your general style of preaching
is like one you preached for me the second Sunday after
Trinity, 1835, I think yours would take people. You see it
seems to me a great object, as Sir Walter Scott beat bad



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novels out of the field, in like manner to beat out bad sermons
by supplying a more real style of sermon. The tone would
in time be raised. When they have once got hold of sermons
with matter, nature, and reality in them, they will loathe the
flummery which is popular. I should like to think over the
subject, and you shall hear from me again.



Eev. R. F. Wilson to Eev. J. 11. Newman.

Hursleu : July 18, 1836,

I shall read with great interest the MS. of Froude's
which you have been so kind as to send. I can, even without
reading, fancy I see the gi-eat difficulty and perplexity you
must be in at present, as to what course to take about
publishing it at once. Things seem to me sometimes, as it
were, at a turning point. A trifle will give the inclination on
one side or the other. We (to speak shortly, for I hope we
shall go together) want all the strength we can. We cannot
afford by any shock even to throw back into their former
upright posture of indifference or suspicion, some who are now
leaning our way. Much less can we afford, as a matter of
mere human calculation, to turn them adrift upon a self-
dependency of their own. I suppose, whatever one's own
private idea of results may be, one should desire and plan as
though things were to be brought into the train one wishes.
Surely it will be time enough to gather one's robes about one
in passive non-resistance, or to bare one's self to the blow, when
things look past help or recovery.

I am writing in too much hurry for me to show any con-
nexion between what I have just written and the unread MS.
which led to it.

Eev. E. F. Wilson to Ekv. J. IT. Newman.

llHralfij : Jtilif 29, 1S36.

It is no use saying more, I suppose, about your cominr^
here. Still, 1 am quite disappointed. It would be so much



204 / olui 1 Iciiry Ncioiian l.s.'JO

l^ettcr seeing you here than at Oxford. You eoukl not bo
.sitting at your formitlaljle upright desk, encompassed by tall
folios ; you could not 1)C broken in upon by perpetual printers
or any other visitors, but would be obhged to resign yourself
to the direction of the Vicar and his Curate.



Eev. Samuf;l "Wiliwcuforce to Eev. J. H. Newman.
]}ri(j]tst(me Eccloru : Jidy 26, 183G.

I hope it is not impossible that we may just now tempt
you to take a few days' relaxation here and in this neighbour-
hood.

Robert is with me, and it will give him and Mrs.
"Wilberforce also [N.B. his mother], who is staying with us,
great pleasure if you could come and see us. Then, too
— reserving, on Lord Bacon's advice, my principal thing till
last — you will see Keble in all the luxury of seaside idleness,
wooing the sea nymphs to steal their melody in the seaweed
caves of Freshwater, or musing over Augustine * De Civitate
Dei' in the murmuring of the waves upon its pebble beach.
Henry, too, should come over to welcome you ; and the
Southampton coach would bring you here and reconvey you
to Oxford with great facility. I wish we could have you to-
morrow. We have a clerical meeting here, and you might be
of great avail in instilling sentiments into our insular under-
standings.

Surely a little change of air and scene must be useful to
you, and would certainly be exceedingly welcome to us if it
brought you here.

[June 12, 1862. — I never was intimate or familiar with
Samuel Wilberforce, though I had known him almost from the
first day when he came up as a freshman to Oriel in October
1S23. But he was drawn towards me by the friendship
which his brothers had formed with me. Whatever alliance
there was between us was brought to an end by his preaching
against Pusey's view of Baptism in the University pulpit ; I
forget the year. He wrote nothing in the ' Lyra Apostolica.'
His brother Bobert wrote one poem — viz. ' Samuel.' He



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wrote a review of the 'Lyra' in the ' Britisli Criiic' I wae,
however, on easy terms with him up to the spring of 1 84 1 ,
when I wrote a letter to him on the loss of his wife. This was
during the No. 90 row, which, I believe, silently gave the
coui) dc (jrdce to our acquaintance.]



Eev. J. II. Ni:wMAN TO F. HcKiEits, Esq.

Orirl Cillni,-: Aii'j;;st 4, 1S36.

... I came clown with Lord Xorroys and a party of
Conservative statesmen, and managed hy pure fate to appeiix
the dullest and ignorantest of bookworms. I am sure they
must have thought me so. I did not know whether to be
amused or disgusted at myself. I sometimes have stupid
fits. They knew who I was, and seemed curious about me.
My amp dc grace on Lord Norreys's patience was mistaking
Lord Stormont for Lord Stourton. I wish you had been by.
But I cannot tell you all in a letter. Unluckily for me,
Mozley [J. B. INL] was not here to hear my troubles, and my
breast is full of a good joke unshared.

Bev. J. 11. Newman to J. W. Bowden, Esq.

Olid: AuijKHt 5, 1836.

Bid I tell you I was meditating tlie publication of the
' Lyra,' and therefore wanted your leave to publish your part
of it '? I intend to put a, /S, 7, 8, e, ^, for the separate con-
tributions, assigning them to their respective owners alpha-
betically li.r.

Bowden a Newman 8

Eroude jS Bobert "Wilberforce e

Keble 7 I. Williams ^].

. . . Pusey and I tliink of giving our names as joint
editors to a library of the Catholic Fathers, which will consist
of translations from St. Austin, St. Chrysostom, ^lo. &c. I
am sure nothing will be like a good flood of divinity ; it wiU
carry the ' Becord ' oil" its legs. . .



2o6 fohn Henry Newman ia36

1 ;un busy with my new book [' Prophetical Office '], and,
if anything is to come of my attempt, must keep steadily at it.

I'ahncr is reviewing Perceval's book. I wish with all my
heart I could get a stinging article on Church matters. I
have been attacking Keble, but he is always so sadly shilly-
shally that I seem to labour in vain.

PiEv. Pu F. Wilson to Eev. J. H. Newman.

Auf/iist 9, 1836.

Sir George Prevost was over here ten days ago, and with
Keble concocted a sort of statement to be signed by the clergy
and addressed to the episcopal members of the Church Com-
mission, or to the Archbishop, concerning the measures which
they have recommended to Parliament. The Memorialists
are made to express that, if they commit themselves to the
new arrangements and make no protest against them, it is as
handing over the responsibility entirely to the Bishops, and
keeping silence as an act of ecclesiastical obedience. At the
same time they state that they will never allow themselves to
receive any benefit from the funds thus redistributed, taken
from lawful possessors and appropriated arbitrarily elsewhere.

This is only a part of what would perplex me how to act.
Keble and Kogers both are strongly against me. Indeed,
Keble seemed to see the duty so clearly that I should fear he
would certainly consider me, if not publicly brand me, as a
prospective thief if I would not bind mj^self to such a state-
ment. Now, upon principle or from habit, I dislike all pledges
unless absolutely necessary or unless involving some matter
of grave and clear duty. And to the present pledge I should
the more hesitate to commit myself because some of the chief
persons among those who would sign such a paper, would
understand you as thereby subscribmg their belief to the
' inappropriablencss ' of Church property by any authority to
Church purposes different from those which the letter of
Founder's intentions prescribed. Further, it seems to me
that there is a great difference between an individual making
a resolution and a number joining together to publish that



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resolution, in the form (I suppose I may say) of a solemn
protest. I think I should not sign such a thing unless I saw
my way clearer, and could better understand the reasons
which make such a step right and proper [J. H. N. (in pencil
at the side) N.B. — I should like to see my answer to this].

I am sorry to learn from Eogers that you have been suffer-
ing so much of late from your teeth. [I had been suffering
ever since the beginnmg of the year. — J. H. N.]

By-the-bye, why will you economise so unnecessarily at
times ? as if to keep your hand in. You sent Major B. away
with a conviction that you looked on D. as a very fine, noble
character. As he had received this information fresh from
you, I did not venture to say anything subversive of your
judgment ; so now he will probably pu]>lish the high admira-
tion and respect with which D. is looked up to by his late
comrades — more especially by Mr. Newman.

In the ' Apologia ' we find that ' Froude on one occasion
accused me of economy.^ '

Ebv. H. W. Wilberforce to Eev. J. H. Newman*.

Aufjust 13, 1836.

I must say that, of all the * Oxford Tracts,' this [against
Erskine and Abbott] is that from which I seem to myself to
have learned most.

How very interesting is the Breviary Tract ! By the way,

' ' It is princil) lly through Mr. Froiulc's Ticmaiiis that this word — economy
— hag got into our language. I think I defended myself with arguments such as
these : — That, as everybody knew, the " tracts " were written by various persons
who agreed together in their doctrine, but not always in the arguments by which
it was to be proved ; that we must be tolerant of difference of opinion among
ourselves ; that the author of the "tract " had a right to his own opinion ; and
that the argument in question was ordinarily received ; that I did not give my
own name or authority, nor was asked for my personal belief, but only acted
instrumentally, as one might translate a friend's book into a foreign language.
I account these to be good arguments ; nevertheless, I feel also that such i>rac-
tices admit of easy abuse, and are consequently dangerous ; but then again I
feel also this: that if all such mist.akes were to be severely visited, not many
man in public life would be left with a character for honour and honesty.' —
Apologia, pp. 45, 46.



2o8 I ohil Ilcnry Ncivnian \><m

I lionrd the otlier day a tradition of Ken fi-om my mother
which occasioned me some musing.

My mother's grandmother's grandmother Hved in those
days, and was early left a widow, and knew Ken. He visited
her, and asked to see the infant, saying, ' I delight to look on
a human being who has never wilfully offended God.'

This scrap has only gone through two hands, as my
mother lived with her'granny, who lived with the old lady. She
herself died seventy-four years ago only, aged ninety-six.
She died while her maid was reading to her one morning,
according to custom, the Psalms and Lessons for the day.

Rogers is here and does one's heart good. He has told
me a good deal about Oxford, you, &c.

Yen. Arcpideacon FpiOude to Eev. J. H. Newman,

Dartiiigton Parsonaric : Aiirjust 24.

I was told yesterday, but it did not come from the Bishop
to me, that, when he presented the address from my Arch-
deaconry, in which there w-as a reference to the appointment of
Bishops, the King said, ' My Lord Bishop, this should not have
been presented to me ; it is a direct interference with my pre-
rogative.' . . .

I cannot say what pleasure a visit from you would give me
at any time.

The letter goes on to speak of the loss of a daughter.
[June 24, 1862. — I have never been in Devonshire from that
time (Autumn, 1835) to this. Archdeacon Froude survived
these his dear children twenty-three year?. His sister's death
[aged ninety-five ? ] has quite lately been in the papers. — J. H. N.J

J. "\V. BowDEN, Esq., to Eev. J. H. Newman,

Au'jx^t 25, 1836.

1 suppose that I shall see you gibbeted in the * Becord ' of
to-day. The Bev. E. B. Pusey, Begins Professor of Hebrew,
and late Fellow of Oriel, was hung up on Monday last as
having been mainlv instrumental in diffusinir ' Hiii^ii Church



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principles,' which, as the Editor in manifest terror declares, are
spreading with an astonishing and unexpected raukness in our
venerable Establishment.



F. RoGE?.s, Esq., to Pikv. J. H. Xf.wman.

Hnrdeji : Auqusi 29, 1S36.

Keble is certainly the most impracticable of men. I have
bullied him with questions till I am afraid of affronting him
about the ' British Critic ' article, and all I can get out of him is
that ho will look at Collier, and an injunction not to give 3'ou
any hopes of his writing, because he had disappointed you
often enough already. He has been at a Visitation Sermon
which he has just finished, on Tradition. lie tells me that
George Denison [now Archdeacon] goes about the country
puffing you and your views of things.

If there is any chance of a new edition of your ' Arians ' I
do wish you could make the Economy a little more palatable ; so
many people seem to mc to find it hard of digestion. I think
I told you long ago that it was the point on which Twisleton
fastened, and I hear that Sir W. Heathcote, who people say is
a clever man, and I suppose well-principled, has need of all his
respect for you and Apostolicity to stomach it.

H. Wilberforce confesses to being in a process of rusting by
l^ing in the country. I hope I have brightened him up. His
mother-in-law, whom I met, accuses you of worshipping Bishop
Ken. Don't abuse me if I have told you nothing about Keble.
I have made you finally certain that I have nothing to say.

S. r. Vroop, Esq., to IIkv. J. II. Newman.

Atldour : August 2C), 1S36.

We landed at Cork and have since traversed the South-
western Coast and the wilds of Connemara pretty completely.
We are now returning home by way of Dublin. Thus the
portion we have seen is almost exclusively Boman Catholic,
and the Anglo-Irish Church throughout this district offers a

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very grievous spectacle both to the mind and to the eyes.
You see in many villages ruined churches unroofed and
covered with ivy, and within a few j^ards of them E.G. chapels
newly and neatly built ; and in the towns, where there are
Protestant congregations, we have heard nothing but Peculiar
sermons, and found nothing but Bible Christians, co-operat-
ing with Dissenters and giving up everything but the name of



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