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the clergy would be great indeed. At present you hear
Nestorianism preached in every other pulpit, and the more
I think of these questions the more I feel that they are
questions of thhigs, not irords. Lastly, how to introduce this
change ? Rose thinks that a clause might be slipped into the
Ecclesiastical Commission Bill, merely dispensing with the
fees necessary for prosecuting in Bishops' Courts. But, again,
how to hinder vexatious prosecutions ? The best expedient
which struck us was that, though any one might prosecute, he
must lay the case before, or be open to the veto of, certain
functionaries such as the Divinity Professors in the Univer-
sities. There is a fine scheme for you, whicli is but an air
castle after all.

I could say much, were it of use, of my own solitariness
now you are away. Not that I would undervalue that great
blessing, which is what I do not deserve, of so many friends
about mc ; dear Bogers, Williams, 6 irdvv Keblc, and the
friend in whose house I am staying (whom I wish with all my
heart you knew, as (ipnstolicondii princrpa, Bowden), yet,
after all, as is obvious, no one can enter into one's mind
except a person who has lived with one. I seem to write
things to no purpose as wanting your imprimatur. Perhaps
it is well to cultivate the habit of writing as if for unsem
companions, l)ut I have felt it much, so that I am getting
quite dry and hard.

My dear Froudo, come back to us as soon as you safely
can, and then next winter (please God) you shall go to
Bome, and tempt Isaac (who is vciy willing) to go with
you. But, wherever you are (so Ijc it), you cainiot be divided
from us.

S8 John Ilcnry Newman 1805

Tlie subject of the Prfnitnnirc had occupied Hurrell
Froude's mind and his father's. A letter from Mr. Keble to
Mr. Newman, -written January 1835, begins with an allusion
to this subject, on some point of which it seemed he differed
from Archdeacon Froude :

Eev. J. Keble to Rev. -J. H. Newman.

Januarii, [Before the 20th.' — J. H. N.] 1835.

I heard from Archdeacon Froude this morning. I do think
him remarkably sweet-tempered to write to me so in his
own defence.

Now as to the Spiritualities that I think it possible for us
to gain. In the first place, I am more and more of opinion
that this dissolution will be a failure, and that the Parliament
returned will presently put in the Whigs again.' But suppose
it otherwise.

1. I see very little difficulty in getting rid of Dissenters'
marriages, only let such persons as we decline to marry, or
such as decline to be married by us, get their names stuck on
some Meeting House door, and duly register their intentions
before a magistrate. . . . However, as we very w^ell know,
very few of our brethren would act on the new law, and
refuse to marry in such cases. Still it would be a great
relief for the few w'ho think with us, not to be acting against
any civil law by our refusal. And there is such an equity in
it prima facie that I should hardly think it could be refused.
How to secure people against clandestine marriages is another

2. Burials are a more difficult point, for the heretics will
not be satisfied without the consecrated ground ; but, on the
whole, I am inclined to think the profanation less that way
than as it is at lu-esent, for now we profane the ground and
the service too. I should think certain hours might be fixed
on, and certain portions of the churchyard, which would

' Which was the case.

18:].j Lctlcrs and Correspondence 89

perhaps lessen the offence, I mean the profanation, tliough I
am aware it would not satisfy them.

3. I should like very much a short Bill empowering Bishops
as such to receive and invest in their names, as Bishops of the
diocese, such sums as the faithful might from time to time
contribute for Church purposes, i.e. to send curates here and
there as might be wanted — in short, the old plan of Church
offerings ; so that when a new church is built no special
endowment should be needed. It would be a step towards the
old plan, which mni^t be reverted to, if we don't mean it all to
be redistributed at pleasure. I think this would be a step
towards making Church property a spirituality — that is, an
offering — and therefore I make bold to mention it here. Perhaps
no law is needed in the matter, but I really wish something of
the sort were done.

I very much like Archdeacon Froude'sview about nomina-
tions without Pnenuinirc, increasing the real influence of the
King ; and should like him to point it out in a pamphlet. For
I confess to you that I look on the Pncmnmrc as a national
sin which we ought to get rid of, if possible, though practically
no further good might come of it. I can hardly enter into
your view of keeping it up as a grievance which it is convenient
to have to complain of. [N.B. — I suppose I protested about
the last sentence above.— J. H. N.]

It would seem that Air. Newman wrote to Mr. Keble to
ask what his words had been that excited this criticism, and
Mr. Keble sent him a copy of the passage he asked for. In
his subsequent transcription of letters he adds the following
explanation of his meaning: — 'I should think it rrvtdiii that
the King could secure, out of three to l)e presented to him,
one mere Erastian or Latitudinarian ; thus the Church would
be in a still worse plight. It would have nothing to complain

[N.B. — I said nothing about keeping the Pncmunirc in
order to have a grievance, but that Perceval's new scheme
would be one which, being our own, we could not complain of.

90 John Henry Neivnian 18;35

though it worked as ill as the Vratmnmre, whereas of the
Prd'munirc we had a right to complain, for it was a tyrannical
measure imposed on the Church against our will.]

PiEV. J. Keble to Rev. J. H. Newman.

Janiiari; 21, 1835 (Fairford).

I send this, the fag end of what I sent to the printer
yesterday: (i) that you may not think me quite perfidious;
(2) that you may revise the other part, if you think it worth
while ; (3) that you may judge what title had better be given to
the set, perhaps 'A Village Sermon for such a day.' It would
not pledge us to find one every month ; and I own I am so
much of a Conservative as rather to dislike giving ' definite
pledges ' ; and I want to know how you are, but I do not wish
to bother you. Perhaps Bowden would be so kind as to send
me a Ime.

We go on here much as we did ; my father, in some respects,
going downhill.

I have been looking over a good deal of friend Jenkyns'
* Cranmer,' and am more and more satisfied that Hooker wrote
many things in order to counteract in a quiet way the ultra-
Protestantism of the said Cranmer and his school.

I see that cathedrals are to be robbed, and we poor curates
enriched at the expense of 5'ou beneficed men. This, I suppose,
it will be right to submit to, on the principle of loyalty to the
King ; at least there is a paper of Hammond's which seems to
imply as much. But I really do think one might make a
push for a Suffragan or two with a chance of succeeding.
But on this I hope to attack Piose quite independently of your
worship. Therefore I give you no message to him.

I long to get up a turmoil here against what they are
doing at the S. P. C. K. I can see that it is wrong, though I
don't very well know what it is. But if, as I understand, they
have adopted all Tyler's 'Literature and Education,' one really
ought to make a stir.

I think this ministry will stand for the present, but that
before long we shall have the old splitting about some sort of

1835 Letters and Con'espondeuce 91

emancipatioii again. [X.B. This was on the whole fulfillL-d in
the ease of Sir Eobert Peel and the Corn Laws.] ^leanwhile,
I suppose we must be up early and late, spreading abroad our
principles. I want to hear of Froude again.

The * Chronological Notes ' contain the following entries :

January 7, 1835. — "Went to town to Bowden's for advice.

January 9. — Called on Eose at Lambeth. Introduced to
Master of Trinity [AVordsworth].

January 12. — Dined at Piivington's, meeting Rose and

January 18. — Went to Margaret Chapel; introducing
Wood to Bowden.

January 27. — lleturned to Oxford, having gone entirely
for my health.

Li looking back on this visit, Mr. Bowden again comments
on his friend's power of cheerfully falling in with the thoughts
and ways of congenial family life :

February 4, 1835.

I cannot tell you how much Elizabeth and I miss you.
It is curious how in three weeks we established in our
minds the impression that your presence with us was the
rule, and your absence the exception, so that it seems now a
strange thing to us to be without you.

Eev. J. H. XEw:\rAN to J. W. Bowden, Esq.

February 5, 1S35.

I am sad about the Commission (of Archbishops, Sec.) which
seems to me a new precedent in the history of the Church.
I only hope they will be quick. There is a talk in different
parts of this kingdom of petitions from the clergy to strengthen
the Premier against the Archbishop ! so that speed is every-
thing. I cannot help thinking that a pamphlet from you on
the Catholic and heretical spirit would be very seasonable.

You might say something on the practical (so to say) ten-
dencies of the day, and of the English character ; the looking

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for some tangible uso of usages, ko.., and considering every-
thing as a theory which is not seen ; our impatience of gene-
ral views ; on the difference between abstract grounds and
grounds of principle ; in what sense conscience is abstract.

Mr. E. F. Wilson writing to Mr. Newman on the question
of Subscription at matriculation, with suggestions for some
alterations, then turns to a rumour current at the time :

Fehrnaiij 5, 1835.

. . . You speak of Pusey's and Sewell's exertions in the
cause. Would it not be a good thing when anything very satis-
factory of this sort appears, which could be sent in form of
a letter by the post, to give it circulation among out-members
of the University, and so keep them alive to what is going
on ?

May I inquire the truth of a statement I heard respecting
you the other day, made to account for Arnold's ill-concealed
bitterness in his sad, and to me inexplicable, appendix xi. of
his last volume, that on his last dining at Oriel you rose and
left the hall immediately that he entered ?

[N.B. — I need hardly say that it was a simple lie. — J. H. X.]

Eev. J. H. Newman to Eev. S. Eickards.

Oriel College: February 9, 1835.

We feel much indebted to you for your handsome contri-
bution towards our expenses, which we are happy to believe
have not been incurred in vain. I trust the stimulus we have
been able to give to Churchmen has been like the application
of volatile salts to a person fainting, pungent but restorative.
High and true principle there is all through the Church, I
fully believe, and this supported and consecrated by our great
writers of the seventeenth century ; but from long quiet we
were going to sleep. Not a month passes without our hearing
of something gratifj-ing in one part of the kingdom or another.
I am quite surprised when I think how things have worked
together, and this in minute ways which none knows but

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mj'self. If it be not presumptuous, I should say the hand of
God was m it.

I suppose Knox is tempted to sa}' what he saj's about schism
from a wish to see what is good in everything. This he seems
to be seeking in other eases : and it does not argue that he
would, if interrogated, have defended what happens to have
Ijeen overruled for good. Yet he is not to be excused alto-
gether, certainly to judge from the little I have read of his

lie is a remarkable instance of a man searching for
and striking out the truth by himself. Could we see the
scheme of things as angels see it, I fancy we should find he
has his place in the growth and restoration (so be it) of Church
principles. Coleridge seems to me another of the same class.
With all his defects of doctrme, which are not unlike Knox's,
he seems capable of rendering us important service. At
present he is the oracle of young Cambridge men, and will
prepare them (please God) for something higher. Both these
men are laymen, and that is remarkable. The very stones
cry out. "Wesleyans and Socinians are made children to
Abraham. In the last century Dr. Johnson is another
striking instance and in another line, taking the gloomy side
of religion, as they have taken the mystical. Nothing is so
consoling as to see the indestructibility of good principles ;
again and again they spring up, and in the least expected
quarters. Ken and his party were scarcely disappearing when
Butler was raised up to carry on the spiritual succession even
from among the Dissenters.

J. W. BowDEN, Esq., to Rev. J. 11. Newman.

February 20, 1835.

Let me begin by expressing the good wishes apj^ropriate
to the anniversary on which you will receive this ; anticipa-
ting for you as much earthly happiness as can be the lot of a
fearless champion of the truth in these evil times, and an
ample portion of that true happiness which no evils of the
day can take awa}', and of which the duration will not be

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counted by anniversaries. . . What a wonderful drama is
going on if we could but trace it as a whole, and know the
multiplied bearings of each varied scene upon our nation and
our Church ! However we can see our own parts, and that
must for the present suffice us.

The little ones have not forgotten you. John repeats to
me the stories which you told . . .

Ekv. R. H. Froude to Rev. J. H. Newman.

March 4, 1835.

Favas lUst'dlans lahia tiia,^ as some one said to John of
Salisbury. What can have put it into your head that your
style is dry ? The letter you sent me in the box was among
the most amusing I ever received.

I have now made up my mind to come back the packet
after the next so as to be in England the middle of May, and
am not wholly without hope that the voyage may do some-
thing for me. The notion of going to Eome with Isaac is
very gratifjang. I must learn French for it though, for I
have no notion of trusting ' providence,' as 1 did last time.

March 28. — The sun has already got almost to his full
strength, though the earth is of course beginning to collect
its stock of caloric — and the experience of last year assures
me that the less I have of it the better.

A preceding letter of Mr. Keble's touches on the question
of Suffragan Bishops, which shows it a question already in the
minds of the movers of the Movement.

The pamphlet bearing the date March 12, 1835, on ' The
Restoration of Suffragan Bishops,' ^ has been reprinted in the
author's works in the volume entitled ' Via Media.' Some
passages from it will be given in the appendix.

' Song of Solomon, iv. ii, Vulg.

- The Eev. J. B. Mozley writes on March ii, 1S35 : — ' Newman's pamphlet
on Suffragans will be out immediately. It is astonishing the speed with which
he composes ; and that when he has a dozen other things hanging on his mind
at the same time. It is certainly a good illustration of Kose's maxim, that
those who have most to do arc the fittest persons to take in hand new work.'

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Archdeacon Goddard to Pan-. J. H. Newman.

March i8, 1835.

I received yesterday from Eivington's, and read with great
pleasure this morning, your judicious and sensible pamphlet
in regard to Suffragan Bishops. It was always a favourite
measure of mine ; but in tlie various instances in which
during the last twenty years I have mentioned the subject to
one or other of our existing bishops, I have found them uni-
versally averse to it, and, as in some instances I could trace,
from motives of much too personal and interested a nature to
be justified.

Joshua "Watson, Esq., to Hev. J. H. Newman.

March 21, 1835.

I have received a copy of your pamphlet (' Suffragan
Bishops ') with particular satisfaction. Not only for its power-
ful (though unavailing) advocacy of a principle for which ac-
cording to my measure I had long been contending, but for the
desire it allows me to express, of personal acquaintance with
the author, whom hitherto I had the pleasure of knowmg
only through his works and his friendships.

Eev. "W. Hale Hale to Bev. J. H. Newman.

March 23, 1835.

... I have for several years very openly expressed my
opinion that the restoration of the office of a Suffragan
Bishop would be a remedy for by far the greatest part of the
defects of our Church Establishment, and every day shows me
more conclusively that, whether the dioceses be rearranged
or not, the physical strength of twenty-six men is perfectly
une(pial to perform the necessary ministrations of the epi-
scopal office among 13,000,000 of people. I hope your pamph-
let will not be too late to do good, and that possibly it may
be the means of appropriating to the use of the Episcopal
order of Suffragans those prebendal stalls which, if so applied,
will give strength and energy to the whole body of the clergy,

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but which if apphed to augment, as the term is, the incomes
of the parochial clergy, will prove to l>e but a drop of water in
the ocean, or as a penny given to pay the deljt of a pound.

Sir Egbert H. Inglis to Rev. J. H. Newman.

A])ril 6, 1835.

I thank you very sincerely for your work on Suffragan
Bishops ; I have read it w^ith great interest. You do not
notice, but you must know, the objection entertained in high
quarters to the institution of the order. It is this : the Suf-
fragans never sat in Parliament. They could not be seated
there now, because the House of Commons at this day would
not permit a Bill to pass which might empower the King
to create the additional number of Parliamentary sees. On
the other hand, the presence of bishops, doing the other work
of bishops without seats in the Upper House, would quickly
raise the question * Why should any of the order sit there at
all?' One of our prelates said to me, 'In five years that
point would be urged with tremendous force.' Valcat quantum.
Personally I should not anticipate this result.

Eev. S. Pt. Maitlakd to Eev. J. H. Newman.

Ajn-il 8, 1835.

I do think the Christian Church has been, and is, and
always will be, and must be, adapted to meet every state of
society and every variety of circumstances except only one.
1 pray God I may be mistaken in thinking that it is the case
now — the time when nobody, or next to nobody, cares for it ;
or else those who might be looked to with the most confidence
either fairly give it up or defend it on such odd principles, or
no principles, that they are actually its enemies. . . It does
seem to me that the plan which you propose [Suffragan
Bishops] would, and, humanly speaking, only would, meet the
present circumstances ; but I have no hope that any measure
so rational and Christian will be favourably entertainedj^by
any numerous body of men.

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PiHv. J. H. Newman to F. Rogers, Esq.

Oriel: April 8, 1835.

I am glad to fiiul that Spry takes my pamplilet even more
kindly than Hale or Dr. Goddard. The ' Jiritish Critic,' if I
may judge from peering through the uncut pages, throws
cold water on it, hut seems not to have read it ; for it
speaks of Suffragans not heing a restoration at all in onr

Gladstone's speech raised in my mind your diflficulty at
once. It led me to three explanations, i. That the re-
porters had not understood what w^as above their captits. 2.
That he was oljliged to speak in the language, or according
to the calculus, of the Commons. 3. That we floored bo
miserably at the Reformation that, though the Church
ground i.s defensible and true, yet the edge of truth is so fine
that no plain man can see it.

Rev. J. H. Newman to .J. W. Bowden, Esq.

Oriel : April 10, 1835.

I have the satisfaction of a number of notes in favour of
my pamphlet [N.B. on Suffragan Bishops] and from persona
I scarcely expected to like it ; among others, Hale, Spr}-,
Archdeacon Goddard, -Joshua Watson, &c.

As to the Low Church party, we must aim at the ' rising
generation.' One cannot expect to get over those whose
minds arc formed by long habit. But young men feel a
disposition (bad enough) to rise against the system they
have been brought up in, and I trust, the true one being
suggested, will keep them from taking up with Liberalism
&.C. &c. instead of Peculiarism. I have the greatest en-
couragement this way, as far as my Oxford acquaintance

I shall bo glad to be introduced to your companion [N.B.
Manuel Johnson, afterwards 'Radcliffe Observer'] ; he must
be a rare person in his line.


98 J o/ni llciiry Nczvmaii IS'io

PiRV. W. F. TIooK TO Rev. J. II. Newman.

Ajtr'il II, 1835.

Our friend A. rercoval, 1 lind, prefers the division of the
dioceses to the restoration of Suffragans. I confess I agree
with you ratlier than with him on this point, because I think
it most important that there should be frequent intercourse
between the people and the highest order of pastors, and this,
under existing circumstances, can only be done by the re-in-
stitution of Suffragans. Of course we should all prefer the
establishment of twenty or thirty new dioceses, but of that
there is no hoj^e.

The following letter relates to Blanco White's change to
Unitarianism. He left the Archbishop's house and Dublin
Jan. 9, 1835, for Liverpool :

Eev. H. W. "Wilberforce to Eev. J. H. Newman.

March 25, 1835.

. . . But this morning's letter has made my blood run
cold. I have hardly been able to think of anything else than
poor dear Blanco. Is the extent of his defection certain ?
How and what have you heard of it ? Pray tell me. How
exactly it bears out the opinion you often expressed to me
about his state of mind. . . Do you remember pomting out
a black dog shaking all over nearly opposite St. John's Gate,
and comparing him to it ? and then going on to this subject.
I never have seen a poor beast in the same state without re-
membering that conversation.

[N.B. — This must have been in 1830, I think, in the Long
Vacation, near Ogle's house. The dog had the distemper. T
meant that Blanco White's mind seemed to me so helplessly
disorganised. — J. H. N.]

Rev. W. Sewell (Exeter College) to Rev. J. H. Newman.

March 31, 1835.

A little form was shown me this morning as a proposed
authoritative interpretation of the act of subscription, which

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pleased me better than anything I have seen. It ran some-
thmg in this manner :

' I, A. B., declare by the act of subscription that I prn/I-.s.?
nothing contrary to the doctrine of the Church of England
as set forth in the Thirty-nine Articles.'

I think the word ' profess ' very happy, and if the practice
of subscription is retained, might not such a form obviate all
objection ?

Later on in the year the ' Clironological Notes ' enter :

Breakfasted with ScwcU and Harrison to talk over Bishop
of Exeter's notion of an explanation of the subscription.

Eev. Edward Stanley (afterwards Bishop of Norwich)
TO Bev. J. H. Newman.

March 16, 1835.

I regret extremely that the error of a word quoted from
your sermons should have escaped notice in correcting the
])ress of the pamphlet I lately published on the Eeligion and
Education of Ireland. In the third edition, to which I have
annexed a preface, a copy of which I request you will do me
the favour to accept, you will perceive that the mistake has
been corrected.

[I don't recollect how the mistake had been brought home
to him, but he did not correct it accurately and perfectly in
his ' third edition.' Accordingly in thanking him for the
pamphlut and the ' kind consideration which led to his note,'
I was obliged to express a hope that he would not think me
over-accurate if I observed that the mistake was not entirely
corrected ; though no one now could at all doubt about the
meaning of the passage. I noticed this, 'that in a fourlli
edition it might be altogether set right.' — J. H. N.]

Rev. Anthony Buller to Eev. J. H. Newman.

April 6, 1835.

If you knew the comfort it is to me to hear of your pro-
ceedings and your ' work and labour of love " (if I may use the

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Scripture plirase), wliile everything, humanly speakinfj, seems
darkening round the Church, you would feel yourself repaid
for your kindness, I am sure, in the happiness you have
occasioned, I hope that you will consider this as the genuine

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