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The following ways of spelling the name Linzee, Linsee, Linzie,
Linsie, and the use of " y " instead of the "i", as Lynzee, Lynzye,
etc., are recognized and accepted, by the descendants of Thomas
Linzee of Portsea, as the correct modes of writing their name, but
they have a decided preference for the form Linzee which was carved
on his tombstone now resting in the church-yard of St. Mary's, the
Parish Church at Kingston, Portsea, county Hants, England.

Often has the writer been asked the question, if the Linzees knew
when they changed from the Scottish form Lindsay or the English
spelling Lindsey, to our system of ending the name with an " ie " or
" ee ", and the use of " z " instead of " s "? Our answer has been
that we could show the precise spelling Linzee for over three hundred
years, while the form Linsee was even older and derived from the
spelling of the name in the more ancient documents and seals. A
few instances will now prove this statement.

In Raine's North Durham, Appendix, pp. 38-39, the seal of Walter
de Lindessie (5), the ancestor of the Scottish Lindsays, is unfortu-
nately mutilated as follows:


Then follows the seal of William de Lindeseie (8), the son of Walter
de Lindessie (5), both of Ercildun, which is happily intact, as follows:


(See records in Chapter III., Section III.; and the seals in Vol. I.,
just before Chapter I., in that interesting work, " The Lives of the
Lindsays ", by Lord Lindsay),

The previous William de Lindeseie of Ercildun was a witness to a
grant by Wilham King of Scots, when his name was spelt William de
Lyndsee (Cal. Doc. Scot., 11:421).

Clearly these seals show, better than the method in any charter,
how Walter and Wilham of Ercildun wished their names to be spelt,

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especially :us the writings in of the names in the ancient documents
were usually the work of scribes. The seal is the mode of its owner,
and therefore should have precedence. In the Appendix, Vol. I., of
the " Lives of the Lindsays ", charters show the name ending with
an " a ", " e ", " i ", and " y ", thus indicating a variation among
those who wrote them. The form Lindeseie appears to be the best
of all the spelhngs, the most in use, and existed prior to 1170; it
and the very ancient names " Lindissi and Lindisse " are synony-
mous, and are perhaps a corruption of the Lindon of Ptolemy,
with the affix " e " or " ey " meaning " isle ". (See also p. 8 and
pp. 189-190).

The tendency to shorten names, which time and common sense
brought about, when applied to the name " Lindeseie ", naturally
reduced it to Lindesei or Lindesee, Lindese, Lindsee, Lindsie, Lindsi,
and Lindes, the last spelling maintaining the ancient origin from
Lindens-eye, but not in harmony with the generally accepted sound
and appearance of the name. The final sound of " e" is thus a
marked characteristic even when the ending is with an " i " or " y ",
and another feature is the fact that the name is never properly less
than two syllables, such as Lins, Linse, or Lindse. Consequently the
name Lindsee should always have the final " e ". The English
form Lindsey is of course in harmony with the ancient origin, but
by omitting the final " e " loses much in both orthography and

The orthography of the surnames of persons, at first, was inti-
mately related to place and employment, but later the variations
became more closely identified with the tastes of individuals, there-
fore as the " s " and " z" were interchangeable, it is not surprising
that some branches changed Lindsee into Lindzee, since the sound
of " z " is more easily pronounced. The " d " is generally silent, or
can be assimilated into " s " or " z", thereby creating the name
Linzee. But, perhaps, it is more correct to change " Lindsee " into
" Linzee ", as the sound of " ds " is the same as that of " z ". The
word Deuswounds shortens to Dswounds, which is the same as
Zounds. (See Skeat's English Etymology, and Sir James A. H.
Murray's, A New EngHsh Dictionary).

Consequently we claim that the name "Linzee " is formed from the
ancient spelling of " Lindeseie ", by simply removing superfluous
letters and not by capriciously changing the letters themselves, and
that it is phonetically correct.

If we turn to the records of England, which country is undoubtedly
the origin of the name, because of the district of Lindeseie in county
Lincoln, we will find the final " e " ending in vogue for centuries
after the Conquest, and, from 1300, supported by the probates
registered at Somerset House, London, which are given in Chapter
IV. Other examples can be shown in abundance, but London has


been selected for comparison, as there the art of writing was more
advanced than in the various counties, with the possible exceptions
of Oxford and Cambridge.

So much misconception has arisen concerning the origin of the
Linzees, that it is well to have our ancestry traced to its proper source,
and to divest it of all conjecture at least as far back as 1627, when
Thomas Linzee (101) of Portsea was born, and to add that his most
probable ancestry ought to make him a descendant of the Lynsye
family seated at Wimborne Minster in the county of Dorset as
early as 1511, which might be derived from the Lindeseies of Scot-
land. But beyond Thomas Linzee (101), the proof of his hne of
ascent is lost, only the tradition in every branch of his descendants
remains, which has for its chief support the statement of Samuel
1st Viscount Hood, on file in the College of Arms, at London, who
claimed that the said Thomas Linzee was descended from the " Lin-
zees of Scotland ". His Lordship undoubtedly knew he was right,
but he failed to record the pedigree, and so the particular branch of
the Linzees of Scotland to which Thomas Linzee belonged rests in
impenetrable uncertainty.

tjnder number (100) and his own number (101), a few

theories will be indulged in concerning Thomas' ancestry. The pedi-
gree of Viscount Hood appears under Thomas Linzee (103).

Thomas Linzee (103), the son of Thomas Linzee (101), was the
first of his family, so far known, to place his Hfe in the pubfic service
of his country. He supervised the manufacture of the rope and
rigging destined for the British Navy in the Government Dockyard
at Portsmouth, near the adjoining town of Portsea, thereby con-
tributing a factor to the efficiency of England's men of war. In this
pursuit he was succeeded at Portsmouth by his son Thomas Linzee
(106) who died in 1737, and by his grandson John Linzee (109), the
son of John Linzee (105), at the Government Dockyard at Devon-
port, near Plymouth, Devon, from 1750 to 1787, but both these
dates are somewhat uncertain.

To Edward Linzee (107), third son of Thomas Linzee (103), a
surgeon and apothecary, we must grant the wreath of business
acumen and political sagacity. No one surpassed him as mayor of
the corporation of Portsmouth, whose administration he controlled
in harmony with the interests of King George, being a favorite with
the monarch, against the attacks of a powerful combination of Inde-
pendents and Whigs who desired to wrest from Edward Linzee the
government of a town the port of which sheltered the greatest naval
and civil marine interests of Great Britain. To his home the officers
of the Navy came courting for other favors than the hands of his
daughters and nieces. To him we principally owe the rise in the
wealth and social prominence of the Linzees. For his municipal
services, he was offered knighthood by George III., in 1778, but he
declined that honour.


Mary Linzee (111), the daughter of John Linzee (105), married
Edward Penfold; he and at least four of his sons served their govern-
ment in positions of importance; the second son WiUiam Penfold
(111-1) was a designer and constructor of some of England's wooden
battle ships. Many of her descendants are serving with distinction
in the British fleet in the North Sea on the Superb, Dido and Topaz.
Her granddaughter Rebecca Penfold (111-7) married Rear-Admiral
John Pasco, who was Flag-Lieutenant or Signal Officer of the Victory
to the famous fighting Admiral Horatio Nelson, and unfurled at the
Battle of Trafalgar that soul stirring message " England expects that
every man will do his duty ". Another descendant Horatia Victoria
Elizabeth Atchison Pasco (111-16) married Admiral John Bonne-
maison Bunch McHardy, who, in addition to distinguished naval
services, was known as the founder of the police of England.

Susannah Linzee (114), daughter of Edward Linzee (107), brought
distinction to her family by her marriage to Samuel 1st Viscount
Hood, one of the most capable of England's Admirals. To him was
assigned the difficult task of holding in check the ambitious designs
of world dominion by Napoleon L, which responsibility he handed
down to Admiral Nelson, whose naval experiences were to a large
extent gained under the immediate command of Hood. Lady Hood
was in Boston, Mass., previous to the perilous times of the American
Revolution, and left pleasant memories of her amiable personality.

Admiral Robert Linzee (117), brother of Viscountess Hood, was
the first of our name to attain that high rank in the British Navy.
To him for gallant services rendered his country in the hour of peril,
the thanks of both houses of Parliament were voted. His brother
Edward Linzee Jr., trod somewhat in the footsteps of their father,
but less conspicuously.

Captain John Linzee (118), founder of the American branch, was
the son of John Linzee (109) of Plymouth. He did his part in the
battles between the mother country and her American Colonies, and
in the naval encounters waged between England and France in the
waters of the New World. His frigate the Falcon was one of the
first to fire on the redoubt at the Battle of Bunker Hill in 1775,
where bound by duty, the oath of allegiance and loyalty, he aimed
a British shot intending to shatter the hopes of the new-born American
hberty, and his act is more to be admired because it was fettered by
wedlock to an American wife, and deep attachment to American
friends, which, in the hour of peace and after the death of his wife
in 1792 in Boston, led to him settle in Milton, Mass., where he died
in 1798. He and his descendants have held, both in England and
in America, excellent positions in business and social circles, through
intermarriages with families of distinction.

Admiral Samuel Hood Linzee (120), son of Captain John Linzee
(118), was one of the youngest Admirals in the British service; he
saw fighting from the Indian Ocean to the shores of Denmark, where


he served under Nelson. His untimely death at the age of forty six
deprived his branch of further honours which his career and ability
indicated that he would have achieved.

These names are glory enough to excuse the compilation of this
family history, but we must not fail to draw attention to the lives of
young lieutenants, Edward, Richard, and Samuel Hood Jr. Linzee,
which are cherished for their devotion to their country, though passing
away on duty at an early age, without the accumulation of higher
honours. Also we must eulogize the descendants of Admiral Samuel
Hood Linzee of other names serving in the British Army, in the past
and today.

To these we can add the names of those devoted to the Church,
Rev. Edward Linzee (119) and his son Rev. Edward Hood Linzee
(127), and those who have led honourable and successful business
careers, John Inman Linzee (123), Robert George Linzee (128),
Thomas C. Amory Linzee (134) and John Wilham Linzee (135), the
last a Vice Consul-general of the United States of America at Cal-
cutta, India.

If the lives of generations living today are examined, it will be
found that they are taking an active share in the affairs of the old
world and of the new, in the domain of patriotism and the field of

The astonishing national English careers of the descendants of Vis-
countess Susannah (Linzee) Hood (114), many of whom are in high
authority at the front in the present European War, and the bril-
hant business successes of the descendants of Hannah Rowe
(Linzee) Amory (121), and Susannah (Linzee) Tilden (122), many
of whom fought for the abolition of slavery in our lamentable civil
strife of 1861-1864, all lend a charm and interest to the compilation
of the genealogy of their lives, showing their mutual relationships
to each other and to the Linzees.


Before proceeding to the history of those who clearly bore the
name " Linzee ", a chronological arrangement will be given of the
Limesis and Lindeseies domiciled in Hampshire and other counties
in the south of England, to whom special attention should be drawn
on account of their geographical proximity to Portsea, Hants, the
home of Thomas Linzee (101), the ancestor of the Linzees.

This compilation is not to be interpreted as an attempt to write a
pedigree, in any sense of the word, but only a convenient means of
presenting miscellaneous records and attracting attention to inter-
esting genealogical possibilities.

Lord Lindsay, when writing his " Lives of the Lindsays ", found
it impossible to begin the history of the great house of Lindsay without
bringing in the Limesi family of Normandy which settled in England
with the Conqueror, as the probable progenitor of the Scottish founder
Walter de Lindeseie (1) of Cumbria and Scotland (0- And strange
to say, an account of the Lindeseye famiUes in the south of England,
and the same is true of all except the north of England, cannot be
recorded from early times without introducing some branch of the
same Limesi family as the nearest possible origin of the race.

The devastating civil wars of the White and Red Roses, have
eliminated the continuous links in the descent of the branch of the
Limesi family seated at Winchester and Southampton, in Hampshire;
but enough remains to show that they existed there and in the ad-
joining counties for centuries, in so far as the principal or older sons
are concerned, and that their numbers make it quite impossible for
all of their junior branches to have become extinct. The Linsey
family of Stoke Charity, near Winchester, undeniably possesses a
strong probabiHty of descent from the Limesis, and the same is true
in a less degree of all Lindseyes in the south of England.

Evidence will also be presented showing that Scottish Lindsays
made settlements in these southern parts.

Norman Seigneurie, son of Ralph de Toesni (See Chapter III., Sec-
tion I.) . He was father of Radulfus de Limesi (2) .

2. RADULFUS or RALPH DE LIMESI, son of Hugo de Limesi
(1); b. about 1040, in Normandy, came with the Conqueror into
England and fought at the battle of Hastings in 1066 (See Chapter
III., Section L). Probable father of Ricardus de Limesi (3) of

(0 Chapter I., Section I., and Chapter III., Section III.


Mabel Katherine (Linzee) Mxtsgrave


Winchester, county Hants, England, the possible ancestor of the
Limesis in the south of England.

3. RICARDUS DE LIMESI, probable son of Radulfus de Limesi
(2); b. about 1075-1080; he resided in Flesmangerestret, Winchester,
Hants, England, according to an ancient survey ordered by King
Henry I., which was completed between 1107-1128 (Liber Winton,
pp. 552-53, given under Hampshire in Chapter I., Section III.).
The date of completion was more correctly between 1103-1115.

From the fact that this Richard's name does not appear in the
Domesday Survey, it can be argued that he is not a younger brother
of the said Radulfus de Limesi (2) ; he is here assumed to be a younger
son of the said Radulfus, as his presumed father and brother Radulfus
de Limesi (3) were witnesses, in the reigns of WiUiam I. or II., and
Henry I., of royal charters in favor of the convent of St. Swithun's,
Winchester (See Chapter III., Section I.).

He is probably the father of Robertus de Limeseia (4) of Hamte-
scira, and Rogo de Limesia (5) of WOtescira, both living in 1131
(Magnum Rot. Scaccarii vel Magnum Rot. Pipae de anno tricesimo
primo Regni Henrici Prima, by Joseph Hunter, pp. 22, 38, 41).

4. ROBERTUS DE LIMESEIA, probably the son of Ricardus de
Limesi (3); b. about 1105. Hamtescira, Robt' de Limesia, deb. dim.
m. auri. ut tenet ad firma tra Pag de Neafla. Et xiij. li. & xix. s. de
veti firma ej' de tre (Magnum Rot. Scacc. vel Mag. Rot. Pipae
de anno tricesimo primo Regni Henrici Prima, by Joseph Hunter,
pp. 38, 41). Robertus de Limeseia was a donor of the lands of
Betheslega to the Prior and Convent of St. Denis, by Southampton,
Hants, in the time of King Stephen, who reigned 1135-54 (Charter
RoUs, 111:338).

Saint Denis, — Charter Num. III.
Carta Regis Stephani.

Stephanus rex Angliae episcopo Wintoniae, &c. Salutem. Sciatis
me concessisse et confirmasse donationem illam, quam Robertus de
Limeseia fecit Deo et ecclesiae sancti Dionysii juxta Hantoniam et
canonicis in ea Deo servientibus de terra Betheslega, quam Willelmo
Marc dederam, quam idem WiUielmus dedit praefato Roberto.
Quare volo, &c. Teste Willielmo Marc, et Eudone Marc, et Ricardo
de Luci apud Winton (Dugd. Monast., VI: 213).

The Priory of St. Denis (Southampton) was founded by Henry I.,
about the year 1124 for Austin Canons. King Stephen confirmed to
the canons the grant of land at Baddesley made by Robert de Limesey
(The Victoria Hist, of Hampshire, II: 160).


The Hospital of St. Cross, near Winchester was founded about
1136 by Bishop Henry de Blois. The first master mentioned in a
grant of Bishop Blois, was Robert de Limesia in 1136, who was not
succeeded by Roger the next master until 1185 (The Victoria Hist,
of Hampshire, II: 193-4, 196).

Either Robertus de Limeseia (4) or Roger de Limesia (5) is the
probable father of Ricardus de Limesi (7).

5. ROGER DE LIMESIA, probable son of Ricardus de Limesi
(3); b. about 1110; Rogo de Limesia of Wiltescira was mentioned
in 1131 (Magnum Rot. Scaccarii vel Magnum Rot. Pipae de anno
tricessimo primo Regni Henrici Prima, by Joseph Hunter, p. 22).
He is probably the father of Alexander de Limesia (8). See records
under Robertus de Limeseia (4).

AMBLIS, they signed a charter to S. John of Colchester, county
Essex, which was witnessed by Paganus Clericus de Rumeseie and
Waltenis de Limesi, from 1139-46 (See Chapter II., contributed by
William A. Lindsay). Alexander has been included in this list, as
an Alexander de Limesi witnessed a grant to the Priory of St. Denys
near Southampton in 1191-92, which record appears under Ricardus
de Limesi (7).

7. RICARDUS DE LIMESIE, probable son of Robertus de
Limeseia (4) or of Roger de Limesia (5); b. about 1135; perhaps he
is the Ric de Limesi in Berkshire in 1166 (Pipe Roll Soc, IX: 120);
and the Ric de Limisia of Southampton, Hants in 1167 (Pipe Roll
Soc, XI: 194), whose identity can be traced from 1167-85 in the
same locality (Pipe Roll Soc, XI-XXXIV, inclusive). Richard of
Limesey took up the Old farm of Southampton, for the last quarter
of 1167 (The Victoria History of Hampshire, III: 505). He is prob-
ably the Richard de Limesi who, in connection with the " Fee-farm ",
in the years 1170-71, rendered an account from the old farm of
Hanton (Southampton) and also from the new farm (Hist. South-
ampton, Hants, England, by Rev. J. S. Davies, p. 30); and the
Richard de Limesy of Southampton in 1170-71, who rendered an
account for Roger Fitz Leonard, for conveying to Ireland the King's
supplies, and who probably in 1183-4, was the Richard de Limesey,
Marshall, carried over into Ireland, as mentioned by an account
rendered by Gilbert Pipard at Chester (Cal. Doc. Ireland, 1171-1251,
pp. 1, 10). Richard de Limesia, marshal in Ireland was also men-
tioned in 1185 (Pipe Roll Soc, XXXIII: 28, 63). But it is possible
that Richard de Limesi of Berkshire in 1166 is a distinct person from
Richard de Limesi, marshal, in 1185.


It is quite possible that Richard de Limesi, the marshal of 1185,
is the Ricardus de Limesie, who with Alexander de Limesia the son of
Roger, were witnesses, in 1191-92, to a grant by William Brewer to
the Priory of St. Denys, near Southampton, of twenty shillings of
rent, with Hugo Bard., [probably Bardulf], and others (Pipe Roll
Soc, X: 99-100). A Hugo Bardulf was the husband of Amablis de
Limesi, the daughter of Gerardus de Limesi (5) of the main Une of
Limesis in Warwickshire (Chapter IIL, Section L, and Rot. Char-
tarum, p. 150b); thus another link of relationship is probably shown
between the Limesis of Wolverley and the branch in Hampshire.

Ricardus de Limesi (7) probably d. about 1200, leaving a son and
heir Henry de Limesey (9) of Southampton and of West Tisted
(Abbreviatio Placitorum, p. 42).

Contemporary with Ricardus (7) there was an Urso de Limis in
Sussex in 1194 (Rot. Curiae Regis, I: 78, 94).

In 1203, flourished a Roger de Limesi v. Robert Trusse in Wicham
(Cal. Feet of Fines, Suffolk, by Walter Rye, p. 10).

The Victorian History of England, Hampshire and the

Isle of Wight.

(111:59-61) West Tisted Manor. With regards to the actual
holders of the manor various members of the family of Limesi held
lands in West Tisted in the twelfth and thirteenth centuries. Towards
the end of the twelfth century, Richard de Limesi died seised of one
hide in West Tisted, leaving a son and heir Henry (Abbrev. Plac.
p. 42). As he was in debt to the King his lands were confiscated, but
they were released to Henry in his petition of 1203, to hold from year
to year as the farmer of the King until the debt was paid in full
(Ibid.). Some thirty years later Roger de Limesi, who was also in
debt to the King, was slain, and in 1234 the sheriff was ordered to
deliver his chattels to any lawful man of the county who would be
responsible to the King for part payment of the debts (Excerpt E
Rot. Fin., I: 257). Roger's heir was a certain Adam de Limesi, who
seems to have taken no steps in this direction, but alienated all his
property to the priories of Newark and Selborne, apparently in order
to shift the responsibility of payment from his own shoulders to
theirs. Thus in 1242 he granted half a carucate in West Tisted
(later called Merryfield) to the prior of Newark in frankalmoign in
return for two corrodies in food and drink during his life: a canon's
corrody and a groom's corrody at Newark (Feet of Fines, Hants,
Mich. 26 Hen. III.) . About the same time he granted two messuages
and lands in West Tisted to the prior and canons of Selborne to hold
of him and his heirs by the annual payment of a pound of cummin
(Selborne Chart. Hants, p. 31). As Adam had foreseen, King Henry
III. demanded the payment of Roger de Limesi's debts from the
priory of Newark, and an arrangement was made that the prior


should pay a mark every year into the royal exchequer until the
debt of £276. 14s. 3d. was paid in full. However, the prior of Newark
pleaded that the prior of Selborne also was holding property in West

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