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week yield to the Lords; but, speaking with others
this day, they conclude they will not, but that rather
the King will accommodate it by committing my Lord
Clarendon himself. I remember what Mr. Evelyn
said, that he did believe we should soon see ourselves
fall into a Commonwealth again.

December 1st. (Lord's day.) I to church : and in
our pew there sat a great lady, whom I afterwards
understood to be my Lady Carlisle, a very fine woman
indeed in person.

2nd. The Lords' answer is come down to the
Commons, that they are not satisfied in the Commons'
reasons ; and so the Commons are hot, and like to sit
all day upon the business what to do herein, most
thinking that they will remonstrate against the Lords.
Thence to Lord Crewe's and there dined with him;



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where, after dinner, lie took me aside, and bewailed the
condition of the nation, now the King and his brother
&BG at a distance about this business of the Chancellor,
and the two houses differing : and he do believe that
there are so many about the King like to be concerned
and troubled by the Parliament, that they will get
him to dissolve or prorogue the Parliament ; and the
rather, for that the King is likely, by this good hus-
bandry of the Treasury, to get out of debt, and the
Parliament is likely to give no money. Among other
things my Lord Crewe did tell me with grief, that he
hears that the King of late hath not dined nor supped
with the Queen as he used of late to do. To "West-
minster Hall, where my cousin Roger tells me of the
high vote of the Commons this afternoon, that the
proceedings of the Lords in the case of my Lord
Clarendon are an obstruction to justice, and of ill
precedent to future times.

3rd. To Sir "W. Coventry's, the first time I have seen
him at his new house since he came to lodge there. He
tells me of the vote for none of the House to be of the
Commission for the Bill of Accounts, whic-h he thinks
so great a disappointment to Birch and others that ex-
pected to be of it, that he thinks, could it have been
foreseen, there would not have been any Bill at all.
We hope it will be the better for all that are to account ;
it being likely that the men, being few, and not of the
House, will hear reason. The main business I went



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about was about Gilsthrop, Sir W. Batten's clerk, who,
being upon his death-bed and now dead, hath offered
to make discoveries of the disorders of the Navy, and
of 65,000 damage to the King, which made mighty
noise in the Commons' House ; and members appointed
to go to him, which they did ; but nothing to the pur-
pose got from him, but complaints of false musters,
and ships being refitted with victuals and stores at
Plymouth, after they were fitted from other ports;
but all this to no purpose, nor more than we know and
will own. But the best is that this loggerhead should
say this, that understands nothing of the Navy, nor
ever would, and hath particularly blemished his master
by name among us. I told Sir W. Coventry of my
letter to Sir B. Brookes, and his answer to me. He
advises me in what I write to him to be as short as I
can, and obscure, saving in things fully plain ; for all
that he do is to make mischief ; and that the greatest
wisdom in dealing with the Parliament in the world is
to say little, and let them get out what they can by
force, which I shall observe. He declared to me much
of his mind to be ruled by his own measures, and not
to go so far as many would have have him to the ruin
of my Lord Chancellor, and for which they do en-
deavour to do what they can against Sir W. Coventry.
" But," says he, " I have done my do in helping to get
him out of the administration of things, for which he
is not fit, but for his life or estate I will have nothing



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to say to it : besides that, my duty to iny master the
Duke of York is such, that I will perish before I will
do anything to displease or disoblige him, where the
very necessity of the kingdom do not in my judgment
call me." Home, and there met W. Batelier, who tells
me the first great news that my Lord Chancellor is fled
this day, and left a paper behind him for the House of
Lords, telling them the reason of his retiring, com-
plaining of a design for his ruin. But the paper I
must get : only the thing at present is great, and will
put the King and Commons to some new counsels
certainly. Sir Richard Ford told us this evening an
odd story of the baseness of the late Lord Mayor, Sir
W. Bolton, in cheating the poor of the City out of the
collections made for the people that were burned of
1,800, of which he can give no account, and in which
he hath foresworn himself plainly, so that the Court of
Aldermen have sequestered him from their Court till
he do bring in an account. He says also that this day
hath been made to appear to them that the keeper of
Newgate hath at this day made his house the only
nursery of rogues, prostitutes, pickpockets, and thieves
in the world ; where they were bred and entertained,
and the whole society met : and that for the sake of
the sheriffs they durst not this day commit him, for
fear of making him let out the prisoners, but are fain,
to go by artifice to deal with him. He tells me, also,
speaking of the new street that is to be made from



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Guildhall down to Cheapside, that the ground is al-
ready most of it bought. And tells me of one particu-
lar, of a man that hath a piece of ground lying in the
very middle of the street that must be, which, when
the street is cut out of it, there will remain ground
enough of each side to build a house to front the street.
He demanded 700 for the ground, and to be excused
paying anything for the melioration of the rest of his
ground that he was to keep. The Court consented to
give him 700, only not to abate him the consideration,
which the man denied, but told them, and so they
agreed tha.t he would excuse the City the 700, that he
might have the benefit of the melioration without
paying anything for it. So much some will get by
having the City burned ! Ground, by this means, that
was not 4d. a foot before, will now, when houses are
built, be worth 15s. a foot. But he tells me of the
common standard now reckoned on between man and
man, in places where there is no alteration of circum-
stances, but only the houses burnt, there the ground,
which, with a house on it did yield 100 a year, is now
reputed worth 33 6s. 8d. ; and that this is the common
market price between one man and another, made upon
a good and moderate medium.

4th. I hear that the House of Lords did send down
the paper which my Lord Clarendon left behind him,
directed to the Lords, to be seditious and scandalous ;
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hands of the hangman, and that the King be desired to
agree to it. I do hear, also, that they have desired the
King to use means to stop his escape out of the nation.
This day Grilsthrop is buried, who hath made all the
late discourse of the great discovery of 65,000, of
which the King hath been wronged.

5th. This day, not for want, but for good husbandry,
I sent my father, by his desire, six pair of my old
shoes which fit him, and are good ; yet methought it
was a thing against my mind to have him wear my
old things.

6th. With Sir J. Minnes to the Duke of York, the
first time that I have seen him, or we waited on him
since his sickness ; and, blessed be God ! he is not at
all the worse for the smallpox, but is only a little weak
yet. We did much business with him, and so parted.
My Lord Anglesey told me how my Lord Northampton
brought in a Bill into the House of Lords yesterday,
under the name of a Bill for the Honour and Privilege
of the House, and Mercy to my Lord Clarendon :
which he told me he opposed, saying that he was a man
accused of treason by the House of Commons ; and
mercy was not proper for him, having not been tried
yet, and so no mercy needful for him. However, the
Duke of Buckingham and others did desire that the
Bill might be read ; and it was for banishing my Lord
Clarendon from all his Majesty's dominions, and that
it should be treason to have him found in any of them :



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the thing is only a thing of vanity, and to insult over
him. By-and-by home with Sir J. Minnes, who
tells me that my Lord Clarendon did go away in a
Custom-house boat, and is now at Calais : and, I con-
fess, nothing seems to hang more heavy than his
leaving of this unfortunate paper behind him, that hath
angered both Houses, and hath, I think, reconciled
them in that which otherwise would have broke them
in pieces ; so that I do hence, and from Sir W.
Coventry's late example and doctrine to me, learn that
on these sorts of occasions there is nothing like silence ;
it being seldom any wrong to a man to say nothing,
but for the most part it is to say anything. Sir J.
Minnes told me a story of my Lord Cottington, who,
wanting a son, intended to make his nephew his heir,
a country boy ; but did alter his mind upon the boy's
being persuaded by another young heir in roguery to
crow like a cock at my Lord's table, much company
being there, and the boy having a great trick at doing
that perfectly. My Lord bade them take that fool
away from the table, and so gave over the thoughts of
making him his heir from this piece of folly. Captain
Cocke comes to me, and among other discourse, tells
me that he is told that an impeachment against Sir W.
Coventry will be brought in very soon. He tells me,
that even those that are against my Lord Chancellor
and the Court in the House do not trust nor agree one
with another. He tells me that my Lord Chancellor



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went away about ten at night on Saturday last at
Westminster, and took boat at Westminster, and thence
by a vessel to Calais, where he believes he now is : and
that the Duke of York and Mr. Wren knew of it, and
that himself did know of it on Sunday morning : that
on Sunday his coach, and people about it, went to
Twittenham, and the world thought that he had been
there : that nothing but this unhappy paper hath un-
done him, and that he doubts that this paper hath lost
him everywhere : that his withdrawing do reconcile
things so far as he thinks, the heat of their fury will be
over, and that all will be made well between the two
[royalj brothers : that Holland do endeavour to per-
suade the King of France to break peace with us :
that the Dutch will, without doubt, have sixty sail of
ships out the next year ; so knows not what will be-
come of us, but hopes the Parliament will find money
for us to have a fleet.

7th. Somebody told me this, that they hear that
Thomson, with the wooden leg, and Wildman, the
Fifth- Monarchy man, a great creature of the Duke of
Buckingham's, are in nomination to be Commissioners,
among others, upon the Bill of Accounts.

8th. (Lord's day.) To Whitehall, where I saw the
Duchess of York, in a fine dress of second mourning
for her mother, being black, edged with ermine, go to
make her first visit to the Queen since the Duke of
York's being sick ; and by-and-by, she being returned,



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the Queen came and visited her. But it was pretty to
observe that Sir W. Coventry and I, walking an hour
and more together in the Matted Gallery, he observed,
and so did I, how the Duchess, as soon as she spied
him, turned her head a one side. Here he and I walked
thus long, which we have not done a great while before.
Our discourse was upon everything : the unhappiness
of having our matters examined by people that under-
stand them not ; that it is better for us in the Navy to
have men that do understand the whole, and that are
not passionate ; that we that have taken the most pains
are called upon to answer for all crimes, while those
that, like Sir W. Batten and Sir J. Minnes, did sit and
do nothing, do lie still without any trouble ; that, if it
were to serve the King and kingdom again in a war,
neither of us could do more, though upon this experi-
ence we might do better than we did ; that the com-
manders, the gentlemen that could never be brought to
order, but undid all, are now the men that find fault
and abuse others ; that it had been much better for the
King to have given Sir J. Minnes and Sir W. Batten
1,000 a year to have sat still, than to have had them
in this business of this war : that the serving a prince
that minds not his business is most unhappy for them
that serve him well, and an unhappiuess so great that
he declares he will never have more to do with a war
under him. That he hath papers which do flatly con-
tradict the Duke of AremarleV narrative ; and that he



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hath been with the Duke of Albemarle and showed him
them, to prevent his falling into another like fault ;
that the Duke of Albemarle seems to be able to answer
them ; but he thinks that the Duke of Albemarle and
the prince are contented to let their narratives sleep,
they being not only contradictory in some things, as he
observed about the business of the Duke of Albemarle's
being to follow the prince upon dividing the fleet, in
case the enemy come out, but neither of them to be
maintained in others. That the business the other
night of my Lord Anglesey at the Council was happily
got over for my lord by his dexterous silencing it, and
the rest not urging it further ; forasmuch as, had the
Duke of Buckingham come in time enough, and had
got it by the end, he would have toused him in it ; Sir
W. Coventry telling me that my Lord Anglesey did,
with such impudence, maintain the quarrel against the
Commons and some of the Lords, in the business of my
Lord Clarendon, that he believes there are enough
would be glad but of this occasion to be revenged of
him. He tells me that he hears some of the Thomsons
are like to be of the Commission for the Accounts, and
Wildman, which he much wonders at, as having been
a false fellow to everybody, and in prison most of the
time since the King's coming in. But he do tell me
that the House is in such a condition that nobody can
tell what to make of them, and, he thinks, they were
never in before ; that everybody leads, and nobody



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follows ; and that he do now think that, since a great
many are defeated in their expectation of being of the
Commission, now they would put it into such hands as
it shall get no credit from : for if they do look to the
bottom and see the King's case, they think they are
then bound to give the King money; whereas, they
would be excused from that, and therefore endeavour
to make this business of the accounts to signify little.
Comes Captain Cocke to me ; and there he tells me, to
my great satisfaction, that Sir Robert Brookes did
dine with him to-day ; and that he told him, speaking
of me, that he would make me the darling of the
House of Commons, so much he is satisfied concerning
me. And this Cocke did tell me that I might give him
thanks for it ; and I do think it may do me good, for
he do happen to be held a considerable person, for a
young man, both for sobriety and ability.

9th. Comes Sir G-. Carteret to talk with me, who
seems to think himself safe as to his particular, but do
doubt what will become of the whole kingdom, things
being so broke in pieces. He tells me that the King
himself did the other day very particularly tell the
whole story of my Lord Sandwich's not following the
Dutch ships, with which he is charged ; and shows the
reasons of it to be the only good course he could have
taken, and do discourse it very knowingly. This I am
glad of, though, as the King is now his favour, for
aught I see, serves very little in stead at this day, but



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rather is an argument against a man ; and the King do
not concern himself to relieve or justify anybody, but
is wholly negligent of everybody's concernment. This
morning I was troubled with my Lord Hinehingbroke's
sending to borrow 200 of me ; but I did answer that
I had none, nor could borrow any ; for I am resolved I
will not be undone for anybody, though I would do
much for my Lord Sandwich for it is to answer a
bill of exchange of his but not ruin myself. Called
at Cade's, the stationer, where he tells me how my
Lord Gerard is troubled for several things in the
House of Commons, and in one wherein himself is
concerned; and, it seems, this Lord is a very proud
and wicked man, and the Parliament is likely to order
him.

10th. The King did send a message to the House
to-day that he would adjourn them on the 17th instant
to February ; by which time, at least, I shall have
more respite to prepare things on my own behalf and
the Office against their return. Met Mr. Kingston,
the organist, walking, and I walked with him ; and
asking him many questions, I do find that he can no
more give an intelligible answer to a man that is not a
great master in his art than another man. And this
confirms me that it is only the want of an ingenious
man that is master in music, to bring music to a
certainty and ease in composition. I home, having
finished my letter to Commissioner Middleton, who is



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now coming np to town from Portsmouth, to enter
upon his Surveyorship.

llth. Attended the Duke of York, as we are wont,
who is now grown pretty well, and goes up and down
Whitehall, and this night will be at the Council. Here
I met Bolt and Sir John Chichly, and I met Harris,
the player, and talked of Catiline, which is to be
suddenly acted at the King's house : and there all agree
*hat it cannot be well done at that house, there not
being good actors enough : and Burt acts Cicero, which
they all conclude hs will not be able to do well. The
King gives them 500 for robes, there being, as they
say, to be sixteen scarlet robes. Comes Sir W. Warren
to talk about some business of his and mine : and he, I
find, would have me not to think that the Parliament,
in the mind they are in, and having so many good
offices in their view to dispose of, will leave any of the
King's officers in, but will rout all, though I am likely
*o escape as well as any, if any can escape ; and I
think he is in the right, and I do look for it accord-
ingly. Comes Sir W. Pen, and he there told me what
passed to-day with him in the Committee, by my Lord
Sandwich's breaking bulk of the prizes ; and it do
seem to me that he hath left it pretty well understood
by them, he saying that what my Lord did was done
at the desire and with the advice of the chief officers
of the fleet, and that it was no more than admirals



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heretofore have done in like cases, which, if it be true
that he said it, is very well.

12th. To the Duke of York's house, and saw The
Tempest, and the house very full. But I could take
little pleasure more than the play, from not being able
to look about for fear of being seen. Here only I saw
a French lady in the pit with a tunic, just like one
of ours, only a handkerchief about her neck ; but this
fashion for a woman did not look decent. My book-
seller did give me a list of the twenty who were men-
tioned for the Commission in Parliament for the
Accounts ; and it is strange that of the twenty the
Parliament could not think fit to choose their nine, but
were fain to add three that were not in the list of the
twenty, they being many of them factious people, and
ringleaders in the late troubles ; so that Sir John
Talbot did fly out and was very hot in the business of
Wildman's being named, and took notice how he was
entertained in the bosom of the Duke of Buckingham,
a Privy-Councillor ; and that it was fit to be observed
by the House and punished. The men that I know of
the nine I like very well ; that is Mr. Pierrepont, Lord
Brereton, and Sir William Turner ; and I do think the
rest are so, too : but such as will not be able to do this
business as it ought to be, to do any good with. Here
I did also see their votes against my Lord Chief
Justice Keeling, that his proceedings were illegal, and
that he was a contemner of Magna Charta (the great



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preserver of our lives, freedom, and properties) and an
introduction to arbitrary government : which is very
high language, and of the same sound with that in the
year 1640. This day my Lord Chancellor's letter was
burned at the 'Change.

13th. To Westminster, to the Parliament door to
speak with Roger : and here I saw my Lord Keeling go
into the House to the Bar, to have his business heard
by the whole House to-day ; and a great crowd of
people to stare upon him. Here I hear that the Lords'
Bill for banishing and disabling my Lord Clarendon
from bearing any office, or being in the King's do-
minions, and it being made felony for any to corres-
pond with him but his own children, is brought to the
Commons; but they will not agree to it, being not
satisfied with that as sufficient, but will have a Bill of
Attainder brought in against him : but they make use
of this against the Lords, that they, that would not
think there was cause enough to commit him without
hearing, will have him banished without hearing.
By-and-by comes my cousin Roger to me, he being
not willing to be in the House at the business of
my Lord Keeling, lest he should be called upon to
complain against him for his abusing him at Cambridge,
very wrongfully and shamefully, but not to his re-
proach, but to the Chief Justice's in the end, when all
the world cried shame upon him for it. Among other
news, it is now fresh that the King of Portugal is



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deposed, and his brother made king ; and that my Lord
Sandwich is gone from Madrid with great honour to
Lisbon, to make up, at this juncture, a peace to the
advantage, as a Spaniard would have it, of Spain. I
wish it may be for my Lord's honour, if it be so ; but
it seems my Lord is in mighty estimation in Spain.
After dinner comes Mr. Moore, and he and I alone
a while, he telling me my Lord Sandwich's credit is
like to be undone, if the bill of 200 my Lord Hinching-
broke wrote to me about be not paid to-morrow, and
that if I do not help him about it, they have no way
but to let it be protested. So, finding that Creed has
supplied them with 150 in their straits, and that this
is no bigger sum, I am very willing to serve my Lord,
though not in this kind ; but yet I will endeavour to
get this done for them, and the rather because of some
plate that was lodged the other day with me, by my
lady's order, which may be in part of security for my
money. This do trouble me ; but yet it is good luck
that the sum is no bigger. With my cousin Roger
to Westminster Hall, and there we met the House
rising : and they have voted my Lord Chief Justice
Keeling's proceedings illegal ; but that, out of par-
ticular respect to him, and the mediation of a great
many, they have resolved to proceed no further against
him.

15th. (Lord's day.) Up, and to church, where I
heard a German preach, in a tone hard to be under-



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stood, but yet an extraordinary good sermon, and
wholly to my great content. Mrs. Turner to visit us,
who hath been long sick, and she sat and supped with
us her son Frank being there, now upon the point of
his going to the East Indies. I did give him " Lex
Mercatoria," and my wife my old pair of tweezers,
which are pretty, and my book an excellent one for
him. Most of our talk was of the great discourse the
world hath against my Lady Batten, for getting her
husband to give her all and disinherit his eldest son ;
though the truth is, the son, as they say, did play the
knave with his father when time was, and the father
no great matter better with him, nor with other people
also.

16th. To several places to pay what I owed.
Among others to my mercer, to pay for my fine cam-
lett cloak, which costs me, the very stuff, almost 6 ;
and also a velvet coat the outside cost me above 8.
And so to Westminster, where I find the House mighty
busy upon a petition against my Lord Gerard, which
lays heavy things to his charge, of his abusing the
King iu his Guards ; and very hot the House is upon it.

17th. This day I do hear at Whitehall that the Duke
of Monmouth is sick and in danger of the small-pox.

18th. To look after the providing of 60 for Mr.
Moore, towards the answering of My Lord Sandwich's
bill of exchange, he being come to be contented with
my lending him 60 in part of it, which pleases me ;



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