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in connection with that loan ?

Mr. Naiman. Right, sir.

Mr. Kennedy. How did Mr. Dominick Bartone and Mr. Jack
LaRue first come into this operation ?



IMPROPER ACTIVITIES IN THE LABOR FIELD 19053

Mr. Naiman. Well, they stopped — I don't remember the exact
day — they stopped in the office and said that they had an opportunity
to sell two of our planes. He went into a discussion on the subject.
The fact remains that we went into an option agreement with the
International Trading Corp., of which Mr. Bartone and Mr. I^Rue
were officers.

Mr. Kennedy. Did you know who Mr. LaRue was at the time?

Mr. Naiman. No, sir ; I did not.

Mr. Kennedy. How many times did you see him ?

Mr. Naiman. About two times, sir.

Mr. Kennedy. Do you know where he came from? We have not
been able to find him.

Mr. Naiman. No ; I don't.

Mr. Kennedy. Do you know anything about him at all ?

Mr. Naiman. No ; I don't.

Mr. Kennedy. Do you know if that is has real name? LaRue?

Mr. Naiman. To the best of my knowledge.

Mr. Kennedy. Bartone and LaRue were going to try to sell a
couple of these planes ; is that right ?

Mr. Naiman. That is right, sir.

Mr. Kennedy. Did you have some conversations — you gave them
the option on January 21, 1959. Did you have some conversations
subsequently with them and with Mr. Triscaro in connection with
how to operate this company ?

Mr. Naiman. There was some conversation held with Mr. Bartone,
whereby he said that he would much prefer having one representative
of Akros Dynamics Corp. do all the necessary negotiations rather
than be involved with the v>'hole group.

Mr. Kennedy. He suggested that just one person take over the
company and then you wouldn't have to deal with a lot of different
people ?

Mr. Naiman. That is right, sir.

Mr. Kennedy. You came to that conclusion and executed that docu-
ment to that effect on Februaiy 11, when you obtained resignations
from all officers and directors. That was the same day that you met
with Mr. Burris and Mr. Triscaro in Mr. Triscaro's office in Cleve-
land. Therefore, did Mr. Triscaro participate in these discussions
as to how you were going to handle the company ?

Mr. Naiman. Absolutely at no time, sir.

Mr. Kennedy. Didn't you inform Mr. Triscaro at that time that
there was some need for money ?

Mr. Naiman. It wasn't only at that time, sir. It was

Mr. Kennedy. Then he did participate in some discussions about
the operations of the company ?

Mr. Naiman. No; the only participation that Mr. Triscaro would
have in this particular deal was the various times that I spoke to him
and told him about our need for additional financing.

Mr. KJENNEDY. And he was to see what he could do in connection
with that, was he not ?

Mr. Naiman. He told me that he would try and see if he could be
of some assistance to me, sir.

Mr. Kennedy. All right. Then you had a meeting in Mr. Triscaro's
office, did you not, in Cleveland ?



19054 IMPROPER ACTIVITIES IN THE LABOR FIELD

Mr. Naiman. Yes, I was called there, when I met Mr. Burris there.
Mr. Kennedy. How did you happen to be called there ? Who called
you to come there ?

Mr. Naiman. Mr. Triscaro called me at the office.
Mr. KJENNEDT. Wliat did he say to you at that time ?
Mr. Naiman. He said, "There is a possibility that we may be able to
have someone that would be interested enough in your deal, if it
merits it, to go ahead and see if they could possibly finance it" for us.

Mr. Kennedy. You then met with Mr. Burris ?

Mr. Naiman. That is right, sir.

Mr. Kennedy. And you told him about your company ?

Mr. Naiman. Yes, sir.

Mr. Kennedy. Then what did you do ?

Mr. Naiman. He suggested that we go to New York and let his
father analyze the situation and to discuss what merits there were
involved.

Mr. Kennedy. So did you take the trip ?

Mr. Naiman. We flew to New York that night.

Mr. Kennedy. Did you meet with his father then ?

Mr. Naiman. We met with Mr. Burris, Senior ; yes, sir.

Mr. Kennedy. Did he review the outline of what you had 2

Mr. Naiman. Yes ; he did, sir.

Mr, Kennedy. And Mr. Triscaro went with you ?

Mr. Naiman. Yes ; he did, sir.

Mr. Kennedy. Where did you meet ?

Mr. Naiman. At Mr. Burris' office. I wouldn't know the address.

Mr. Kennedy. Mr. Burris, Senior's, office ?

Mr. Naiman. That is correct.

Mr. Kennedy. Was he enthusiastic about the deal, or interested ?

Mr. Naiman. He said he was interested ; yes, sir.

Mr. Kennedy. Was it decided then that you would all fly to Florida ?

Mr. Naiman. That is right, sir.

Mr. Kennedy. Why did you decide to fly to Florida ?

Mr. Naiman. He said there was a man down there that I would
have to met and discuss the situation with.

Mr. Kennedy. In order to obtain some funds for the operation ?

Mr. Naiivian. That is correct, sir.

Mr. Kennedy. This is the man that obtained the funds for you ?

Mr. Naiman. He never did obtain funds.

Mr. Kennedy. No ; but is that what was stated to you ?

Mr. Naiman. That is what I was told.

Mr. Kennedy. So the reason that you flew to New York was in order
to meet with Mr. Burris, Senior ; is that right ?

Mr. Naiman. Yes, sir.

Mr. Kennedy. It wasn't because you could not get to Miami by any
way other than New York City ?

Mr. Naiman. That is correct, sir.

The Chairman. That was a specific understanding. There is no
doubt about it in anybody's mind that you went to New York pri-
marily to confer with the'senior Burris; is that right?

Mr. Naiman. That is my understanding.

The Chairman. That is why you went.

Mr. Kennedy. Mr. Triscaro was with you on the trip to New York
and was with you in all of these conversations with Mr. Burris?



IMPROPER ACTIVITIES IN THE LABOR FIELD 19055

Mr. Naiman. Yes, he was.

I,h\ Kennedy. And then you all got on the plane and flew to Miami,
Fla., totrether?

]\lr. Xaiman. That is right.

Mr. Kennedy. Did you stay overnight together in New York ?

Mr. Naiman. What hours there were left in the night.

Mr. Kennedy. You stayed at the Grosvenor House, did you not ?

Mr. Naiman. Yes, sir.

Mr. Kennedy. You and Mr. Triscaro ?

Mr. Naiman. Yes, sir.

Mr. Kennedy. And the following day you flew down to Miami,
from New York ?

Mr. Naiman. That is correct.

Mr. Kennedy. Who did you meet with in Miami ?

Mr. Naiman. That is when I was introduced to Mr. Benjamin
Dranow by Mr. Burris.

Mr. Kennedy. How was Mr. Dranow identified at that time ?

Mr. Naiman. Mr. Dranow was introduced to me as a banker.

Mr. Kennedy. And did you have some conversations and discussions
with him then ?

Mr. Naiman. Yes, we did, sir.

The Chairman, Did he ever identify the bank he was associated
with ?

Mr. Naiman. Sir?

The Chairman. Did he ever identify the bank he was associated
with?

Mr. Naiman. No, he has not, sir.

The Chairman. You haven't found out yet which bank he repre-
sents ?

Mr. Naiman. No, sir, I have not.

Mr. Kennedy. Dranow reviewed the situation with you down in
Florida?

Mr. Naiman. Yes, he did.

Mr. Kennedy, Did he say — what was his reaction to it ?

Mr. Naiman. Well, he looked very favorably upon the deal.

Mr. Kennedy. And he thought he could take care of everything;
is that right?

Mr. Naiman. So he did, sir.

Mr. IvENNEDY. The day you arrived in Florida was the 12th of
February, I believe. What hotel did you go to there? the Mont-
martre Hotel?

Mr. Naiman. The Montmartre, I believe, yes, sir.

Mr. Kj:nnedy. And you and Mr. Triscaro stayed together in the
same room ; is that correct ?

Mr. Naiman. Yes, sir. That is to the best of my knowledge.

Mr. Kennedy. We will put all of those records in.

On the 13th of February, at Mr. Dranow's suggestion, did you fly
over to Cuba ?

Mr, Naiman. Yes. I believe that is the way it was.

Mr. Kennedy. Why did he want you to fly to Cuba ?

Mr. Naiman. Well, to find out if we had a pertinent deal working
with Cuba.

Mr. Kennedy. Who was over in Cuba at that time ?

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19056 IMPROPER ACTIVITIES IN THE LABOR FIELD

The Chairman. If you had what? To find out what? What did
you go over there for ?

Mr. Naiman. If there was a pertinent deal.

Mr. Kennedy. A good deal.

Mr. Naiman. A good deal, I should say.

The Chairman. If there was a good deal; is that what you mean?

Mr. Naiman. That is right, sir.

Mr. Kennedy. Who was your representative in Cuba at that time?

Mr. Naiman. This Mr. Bardone, sir.

Mr. Kennedy. He was over there, trying to work on this thing for
you?

Mr. Naiman. That is right, sir.

Mr. Kennedy. Did you understand he had some contacts with an
individual or a number of individuals in Mr. Castro's goveriunent?

Mr. Naiman. I did not know who they wera I never

Mr. Kennedy. Did you understand he had some contacts over
there?

Mr. Naiman. That was my understanding sir.

Mr. Kennedy. We will get into that.

Then you came back and did you report to Mr. Dranow that it
looked like it w^as going to be a good deal over there?

Mr. Naiman. That is the report I brought back.

Mr. Kennedy. Then was there an agreement drawn up ?

Mr. Naiman. Yes, there was.

Mr. Kennedy. Who drew up the agreement?

Mr. Naiman. Mr. Burris, Jr.

Mr. Kennedy. And in that agreement, you turned over the com-
pany to Mr. Dranow ?

Mr. Naiman. That is correct.

Mr. Kennedy. You turned it over to Mr. Dranow through Mr.
Burris. Why didn't Mr. Dranow take it himself, personally ? Why
was it done through Mr. Burris ?

Mr. Naiman. I can't answer that. Mr. Burris was the consignee,
I believe you would call him.

Mr. Kennedy. In return for the sale you were to receive 15 per-
cent of any profits that the company obtained; is that right?

Mr. Naiman. That is right, sir.

Mr. Kennedy. And upon signing of the agreement

Mr. Naiman. May I interject something there, please?

I was not to receive the 15 percent by myself. The rest of the stock-
holders were to participate in that with me.

Mr. Kennedy. Fine. Upon the signing of the agreement, did you
turn over to Dranow the corporate kit and the other Akros Dynamics
documents ?

Mr. Naiman. Yes, sir, everything.

Mr. Kennedy. So at that moment, Mr. Dranow owned the company
lock, stock, and barrel; did he not?

Mr. Naiman. To my knowledge, yes.

Mr. Kennedy. Well, nobody would know better than you.

Mr. Naiman. That is true.

Mr. Kennedy. Thereafter, you returned to Cleveland, you went
back to Cleveland?

Mr. Naiman. Yes, sir.



IMPROPER ACTIVITIES IN THE LABOR FIELD 19057

Mr. Kennedy. And from then on you dealt either through Dranow
or you dealt through Dranow's agent, who was Abe Weinblatt of
Miami Beach?

Mr. Naiman. Thereafter, all my d e al i n g s were with Mr. Abe
Weinblatt.

Mr. Kennedy. You were notified by Mr. Dranow that you should
deal through Abe Weinblatt ?

Mr. Naiman. That is correct.

Mr. Kennedy. Mr. Weinblatt's name came into the testimony
yesterday, Mr. Chairman, in connection with union land.

On March 18, 1959, you returned to Miami, Fla., or thereabouts?

Mr. Naiman. Thereabouts, sir.

Mr. Kennedy. And you went back with Mr. Triscaro ?

Mr. Naiman. Yes, sir.

Mr. Kennedy. And you stayed at the Eden Roc Hotel, on March
18, 1959, is that right?

Mr. Naiman. If the record shows that, sir.

Mr. Kennedy. And you both stayed there until March 19, 1959, did
you not ?

Mr. Naiman. Probably you are right, sir.

Mr. Kennedy. Wliat was the purpose of that trip? Was that
still in comiection with making further arrangements as far a^ the
planes were concerned ?

Mr. Naiman. Yes. But Mr. Triscaro had some other work at the
time. If I remember correctly, and I am not too sure about the
dates

Mr. Kennedy. What was the other work ?

Mr. Naiman. There was a retarded children's program going on
in the city of Cleveland and he wanted to get some talent to help pro-
mote some money for these retarded children.

Mr. Kennedy. So what was he doing down in Miami ?

Mr. Naiman. I believe he was trying to procure the services of
Rocky Marciano, if I remember right.

Mr. Kennedy. So he is making more trips to Miami Beach, Fla., to
get Rocky Marciano, isn't he? Mr. Burris said that is why he was
there in February.

^Ir. Naijvcan. I am not sure of the dates. But at one time he would
be there for that purpose.

Mr. Kennedy. Actually, didn't he go to Cuba with you ?

Mr. Naiman. Yes, sir.

Mr. Kennedy. Didn't you go to Cuba in connection with the
planes ?

Mr. Naiman. Yes, sir.

Mr. Kennedy. And didn't Mr. Triscaro go to Cuba with you?

Mr, Naiman. Only because I asked him, sir.

Mr. Kennedy. I am sure of that. But he went to Cuba with you
in connection with the planes, did he not?

Mr. Naiman. Yes, sir, he did.

Mr. Kennedy. And he went to Cuba on March 19. He registered
at the hotel, both of you, on March 18, 1959, and both left on March
19, 1959, and went to Cuba and stayed there until March 22, and you
both returned then from Cuba on March 22, 1959.

Mr. Naiman. If that is what the record shows, sir.



19058 IMPROPER ACTIVITIES IN THE LABOR FIELD

Mr. Kennedy. Was he still working on Rocky Marciano, in Cuba?

Mr. Naiman. I am not too correct on my date, sir, but I think that
is what it was.

Mr. Kennedy. When Mr. Triscaro registered at the Eden Roc
Hotel, he said to charge his bill to the Akros Dynamics Corp., 1810
Terminal Tower, Cleveland, Ohio; is that right?

Mr. Naiman. Right, sir. Any work or any help that he has given
me in my behalf or in behalf of Akros Dynamics, I wanted to be
sure that he was reimbursed for it.

Mr. Kennedy. Isn't it a fact that he went down there to help you
with the airplanes ?

Mr. Naiman. Down to Miami ?

Mr. Kennedy. Yes.

Mr. Naiman. Not wholly, sir.

Mr. Kennedy. What other reason was there, in fact?

Mr. Naiman. Well, he has his other work, too.

Mr. Kennedy. He got there on March 18, he left immediately for
Cuba, and he came back on March 22, with you. The reason that he
went to Florida was at your request and suggestion, was it not?

Mr. Naiman. Yes, I did ask him to go with me.

Mr. Kennedy. And that was in connection with the operation of
this company, was it not ?

Mr. Naiman. If that is what the record shows, sir. I just don't
remember, really don't.

Mr. Kennedy. The reason he went to Florida was at your request
and suggestion, and it was in connection with the operation of this
company, isn't that right, Mr. Naiman ?

Mr. Naiman. Partially, yes.

Mr. Kennedy. Do you know any other reason ?

Mr. Naiman. If you have the complete record, why not check the
date when they had that retarded children's program ?

Mr. Kennedy. The record shows that you registered at the hotel
together, that the bill was to be sent to the Akros Dynamics, or Mr.
Triscaro stated on his record that it was to go to Akros Dynamics,
March 18, and on March 18 you both left for Cuba and on March 22
you both returned from Cuba.

Mr. Naiman. Then that would be right, sir.

Mr. Kennedy. Did you know that the local union actually paid this
bill for both you and Mr. Triscaro ?

Local 436 of the Teamsters paid the hotel bills for Mr. Triscaro and
your trip to Miami, Fla.

Mr. Naevian. If that is so, sir, he has been reimbursed, because
I have never at any time asked him to foot any expenses involving
my behalf.

Mr. Kennedy. When was he reimbursed ?

Mr. Naiman. Maybe the last week or two, something like that.

Mr. Kennedy. Wasn't it after I saw you last Saturday in New
York ? Hasn't it been just during the last week ?

Mr. Naiman. Possibly.

Mr. KJENNEDY. Isn't it correct that it has been in the last week?

Mr. Naiman. It could be.

Mr. ICennedy. And isn't it correct that you dated your check as
reimbursement to him for this trip and other trips — isn't it correct
that you dated the check back on June 1 ?



IMPROPER ACTIVITIES IN THE LABOR FIELD 19059

Mr. Naimax. I wouldn't say that I dated the check June 1. If I
did date the check June 1, isn't it a fact also that the records would
show when the check was cancelled in the bank, sir ?

Mr. Kennedy. Eight. And the check was not cancelled in the
bank as of the time we sent an investigator in there

Mr. Naiman. I mean I wouldn't have any reason to put a date as
of June 1. Being a businessman, I know the record would show when
the check would go through the bank.

Mr. Kennedy. The record shows the check went through the bank
yesterday.

But isn't it correct, Mr. Naiman, that you dated the check June 1,
at the request of Mr. Triscaro ?

Mr. Naiman. No, he never requested that ; no, sir.

Mr. Kennedy. Didn't you have conversations along those lines?

Mr. Naiman. Only along the lines to be sure that no expenses in-
curred by him should be paid by him on my behalf.

Mr. Kennedy. Isn't it correct that after you met with me in New
York, that you had a conversation with him and he suggested or
requested that you date the check back to June 1 ?

Mr. Naiman. lie never made no statement like that, sir.

Mr. Kennedy. Why would you take a check that you would write
on June 20 or any date thereafter and date it June 1 ? What would
be the reason for it ?

Mr. Naiman. It could be that maybe I was holding it in my pocket
for a while, too.

Mr. Kennedy. You said you didn't make it out until a week ago.

Mr. Naiman. No, I said I gave it to him a week ago.

Mr. Kennedy. Mr. Naiman, didn't you tell me downstairs just
several hours ago that the reason you dated it June 1 was because
of the request of Mr. Triscaro ?

Mr. Naiman. I wouldn't say that.

Mr. Kennedy. Didn't you state that down in the office ?

Mr. Naiman. No. You asked me that.

Mr. Kennedy. And didn't you say "Yes" ?

Mr. Naiman. No, I didn't, sir.

Mr. Kennedy. You didn't say "Yes" ?

Mr. Naiman. No, sir.

Mr. Kennedy. Mr. Naiman?

Mr. Naiman. No, I didn't.

Mr. Kennedy. What did you say, then ?

Mr. Naiman. I didn't answer that.

Mr. Kennedy. Mr. Naiman?

Mr. Naiman. I didn't answer.

Mr. I^NNEDY. What?

Mr. Naiman. I didn't answer that question.

Mr. Kennedy. You didn't answer it?

Mr. Naiman. No, sir.

Mr. Kennedy. And I let it go ?

Mr. Naiman. No. You kept insisting that he had asked me to date
it June 1. But he never did ask me.

Mr. Kennedy. Did you deny it ?

Mr. Naiman. I didn't deny it and I didn't affirm it.

Mr. Kennedy. Didn't you say, "Yes," Mr. Naiman ?



19060 IMPROPER ACTIVITIES IN THE LABOR FIELD

(At this point Senator Curtis withdrew from the hearing room.)

Mr. Kennedy. Mr. Naiman, didn't you say "Yes"?

Mr, Naiman. No, I didn't.

Mr. Kennedy. Mr. Naiman, didn't you say "Yes'" to me when I
asked you that ?

You are under oath.

Mr. Naiman. I can honestly say

Mr. Kennedy. You are under oath now, Mr, Naiman. Didn't you
say "Yes" to that when I asked you that down in the office less than
2 hours ago ?

Mr. Naiman. I did say that.

The Chairman. Now you say you did say "Yes" when he asked you ?

Mr. Naiman. Yes, sir.

The Chairman. Do you now say that that is the truth, that you
did date the check back at his request ?

Mr. Naiman. Yes.

The Chairman. All right. Thank you.

Proceed.

Here are some photostatic copies of checks and bills. I present to
you photostatic copies of checks and bills — vouchers — ^but apparently
you might not recognize them.

Do you know if Louis Triscaro has a relative who is an officer, a
president, of local No. 436 ?

Mr. Naiman. Did I what, sir ? Repeat that, please.

The Chairman. Wlio is president, do you know, of local No. 436
of the Teamsters ?

Mr. Naiman. I believe it is Louis Triscaro.

The Chairman. Is it Louis or is it some other Triscaro ?

Mr. Naiman. Of local 436 ?

The Chairman. What is Louis Triscaro's real name ? Nunzio ? Do
you know him by that name ?

Mr. Naiman. No, sir. Louis Triscaro is the name I know him by.

Mr. Kennedy. Everybody knows him as Louis. His name is N.
Louis Triscaro.

The Chairman. Here is a photostatic copy of a check I have before
me in the amount of $139.75 in payment of the bill that Mr. Louis
Triscaro had at the Eden Roc Hotel, Miami Beach, Fla., in the amount
of $139,75, dated May 21, 1959, signed by Nunzio Triscaro.

Do you know whetlier Nunzio Triscaro and Louis Triscaro are the
same people — the same person ?

Mr, Naiman. They probably are, sir.

The Chairman. Well, I don't know. We can establisli that.

Mr. Kennedy. Could I call Mr. Constandy. Mr. Chairman, to put
these in ?

The Chairman. Mr. Constandy, you have been pi-eviously sworn?

Mr. Constandy. Yes.

TESTIMONY OF JOHN P. CONSTANDY— Eesumed

The Chairman. In the course of your work for the committee,
have you made an investigation into the subject matter here under
inquiry? j

Mr. Constandy. Yes, I have.



IMPROPER ACTIVITIES IN THE LABOR FIELD 19061

The Chairman. Do you liave there certain photostatic copies of
documents which you procured in the coui^se of your work ?

Mr. CoNSTANDY. Yes, I have.

The Chairman. State what they are.

Mr. CoNSTANDY. First I have the guest registry card at the Eden
Roc Hotel and the folio that corresponds to that card. One of them
is in the name of Louis Triscaro, and he gives liis address. However,
on the folio, which is the bill from tlie Hotel Eden Roc, the account
is charged to the Akros Dynamics Corp. That bill totals $90.53.
That is folio No. 52979.

The second one that I have is the guest card of Mr. Alvm Naiman
at the Eden Roc, in folio No. 52980 — the next con-esponding number.
That bill is in the amount of $49.22.

The Chairman. What do they total ?

Mr. CoNSTANDY. $139.75, the two bills.

The Chairman. Those two bills may be made exhibit No. 27,
A and B.

(Hotel bills referred to were marked "Exhibits 27A and 27B," for
reference and may be found in the files of the select committee.)

Mr. CoNSTANDY. They are for March 18 to Marcli 19, in both
cases.

The Chairman. All right.

What else do you have ?

Mr. Kennedy. What time on the 18th?

Mr. CoNSTANDY. The bills are stamped March 18, 11:07 p.m., and
they are both stamped with the same time and date. That would
indicate that they came in together.

Mr. KJENNEDY. And also they came in at night, 11 :07 p.m.

Doesn't the record show that the next day tliey left for (hiba?

Mr. CoNSTANDY. Yes. Other records indicate they left for Cuba.

Mr. Kennedy. On March 19?

Mr. CoNSTANDY. Yes.

Mr. Kennedy. Do the records also show that tliey stayed over there
and returned on March 22 ?

Mr. CoNSTANDY. That is correct. The next document is a state-
ment of the Eden Roc Plotel, to Louis Triscaro, 2070 p]ast 22d Street,
Cleveland, Ohio.,This reads balance due as of March 19, 1959, folio

52979, in the amount of $90.53, which corresponds to both the folio
and the registration card of Mr. Triscaro.

The second entry is the balance due as of March 19, 1959, folio

52980, Mr. A. Naiman, $49.22. Total balance due $139.75. There
also appears the notation "Thank you for your clieck in tlie amount
of $2,5'55.48," which is another matter we will get into later.

The Chairman. You have another matter later on that one?

Mr. CoNSTANDY. That is correct.

The Chairman. That document may be made exhibit No. 27-C.

(Document referred to was marked "Exhibit No. 27-C" for ref-
erence and may be found in the files of the select committee.)

Mr. CoNSTANDY. Ncxt is the check drawn on the account of the
Excavating, Building Materials, Construction Drivei-s & Racetrack
Employees, Local Union 436, signed by Nunzio Triscaro and the sec-
retary of the local. The check is dated May 21, 1959, and is payable
to the Eden Roc Hotel, in the amount of $139.75.



19062 IMPROPER ACTIVITIES IN THE LABOR FIELD

The corresponding check stub reads "Eden Eoc Hotel, per bill,
$139.75." So the local union paid the bill for Mr. Triscaro and Mr.
Naiman.

The Chairman. That check and stub may be made exhibits Nos.
27-D and 27-E.

(Documents referred to were marked "Exhibits Nos. 27-D and
27-E" for reference and may be found in the files of the select
committee.)

The Chairmax. So far as you know, do you have anything to
indicate that during the course of that trip down there that Mr.
Triscaro was attending to any business for the union ?

Mr. Naiman. I wouldn't have any knowledge of that, sir.

The Chairman. Nothing came to your attention ? You didn't see
any activity along that line ; did you ?

Mr. Naiman. Well. I wasn't with him at all times, sir.

The Chairman. I know there could be moments when you were
not together. The whole purpose of your trip was down there on this
plane business ; isn't that correct ?

Mr. Naiman. I wouldn't say that, sir.

The Chairman. What other business did you Imve ?

Mr. Naiman. He had other business, too.

The Chaiiuvian. They are paying your bill there, that local is paying
your bill.

Mr. Naiman. If that was, sir, he was reimbursed for it.



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